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::::::::I'm not sure comparing an encyclopedia to a beer company or a social networking site is terribly practical, but no matter. I have my personal anecdotes about Wikipedia, you have your personal anecdotes about Conservapedia, neither, I guess, is a reliable source. Now, would you say Encyclopedia Brittanica is also useless because I can't prove it helped anyone get into college, nor does it have lectures or model answers? Now I'm curious. If how many students something has helped get into college is the sole criterion, then the public school system is the big winner there. Are you endorsing that now? [[User:DaveC|DaveC]] 09:56, 13 December 2009 (EST)
 
::::::::I'm not sure comparing an encyclopedia to a beer company or a social networking site is terribly practical, but no matter. I have my personal anecdotes about Wikipedia, you have your personal anecdotes about Conservapedia, neither, I guess, is a reliable source. Now, would you say Encyclopedia Brittanica is also useless because I can't prove it helped anyone get into college, nor does it have lectures or model answers? Now I'm curious. If how many students something has helped get into college is the sole criterion, then the public school system is the big winner there. Are you endorsing that now? [[User:DaveC|DaveC]] 09:56, 13 December 2009 (EST)
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:::::::::Obviously any benefit would be offset by the harm.  Public schools have produced over 30 million illiterates and wastes many billions of dollars a year, so you're barking up the wrong tree there.
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:::::::::Wikipedia is comparable to Facebook, and it's shown to hurt grades rather than help them.  The only specific anecdote provided here for Wikipedia (after several requests) is from a 2007 claim by a European that Wikipedia somehow helped him pass some basic exams.  Meanwhile, there are compelling, undeniable examples of harm caused by [[Wikipedia]].  In addition, just check out how Wikipedia-supporters like you and ComedyFan contribute here:  as far as I can tell, nothing of substantive value.  Hopefully that will change, but it's a familiar pattern by Wikipedia types.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:48, 13 December 2009 (EST)
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