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:::::Frank, inventors and doctors and engineers don't typically even bother learning relativity.  Should I repeat that?  Complain to engineering departments and medical schools if you think that should change.  Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity.  If you want to look and look and look for a counterexample then you'll be wasting your time.  I'm not going to waste mine.  This is my final reply on this topic for now.  Do something logical, such as editing the Bible, and after benefiting from that experience we can revisit this issue in a month or so.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:52, 6 January 2010 (EST)
 
:::::Frank, inventors and doctors and engineers don't typically even bother learning relativity.  Should I repeat that?  Complain to engineering departments and medical schools if you think that should change.  Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity.  If you want to look and look and look for a counterexample then you'll be wasting your time.  I'm not going to waste mine.  This is my final reply on this topic for now.  Do something logical, such as editing the Bible, and after benefiting from that experience we can revisit this issue in a month or so.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:52, 6 January 2010 (EST)
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::::::No, doctors don't bother learning relativity, but medical research is always ready to apply the newest developments of any other discipline
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::::::But sorry, I misunderstood: I read in your biography ([[Andrew Schlafly]]) that you ''are'' and engineer. Is this the explanation that you are not interested in the theory of relativity and haven't taken the time to understand it - and therefore won't explain the phenomenon described above?
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::::::Studying the Bible enriches your life (''editing the Bible'' seems to be an unfortunate phrase, BTW). And I assume that there are many prayers in space aviation centers (starts and landings are quite exciting, I guess).
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::::::I don't see how space engineering benefits from ''editing the Bible''
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::::::[[User:FrankC|FrankC aka ComedyFan]] 16:13, 6 January 2010 (EST)
      
== GPS revisited ==
 
== GPS revisited ==
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:Frank, your intuition ("seems to me") is wrong here, and the entry explains it clearly.  GPS is a work of engineering and any timing discrepancies between the satellite and ground are obviously better handled directly by synchronization rather than asking a physicist what he thinks of relativity.  Engineers don't even bother taking general relativity courses, let alone try to build a satellite system using them.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:44, 6 January 2010 (EST)
 
:Frank, your intuition ("seems to me") is wrong here, and the entry explains it clearly.  GPS is a work of engineering and any timing discrepancies between the satellite and ground are obviously better handled directly by synchronization rather than asking a physicist what he thinks of relativity.  Engineers don't even bother taking general relativity courses, let alone try to build a satellite system using them.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:44, 6 January 2010 (EST)
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::So, contrary to the quotes above, you don't think that the atomic clocks in the satellites use a ''factory offset'' to compensate relativistic effects?
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::[[User:FrankC|FrankC aka ComedyFan]] 16:00, 6 January 2010 (EST)
 
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