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His father's warning had no discernible effect. Years later, in London, Marx went on “many a pub crawl.”<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, pp. 6, 74. Cf. Jack Newcombe, "[http://books.google.com/books?id=8VMEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105#v=onepage&q&f=false The Karl Marx Memorial Pub Crawl]," ''Life'', October 25, 1968, pp. 105-106; "[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/86431.stm Cheers to Karl Marx], BBC, 1 May, 1998; Richard Newberry, "[http://www.lastampa.it/_web/CMSTP/tmplrubriche/giornalisti/grubrica.asp?ID_blog=145&ID_articolo=74&ID_sezione=308&sezione=A London Pub Crawl with Karl Marx]," ''La Stampa'', November 26, 2007</ref> On one of these, Marx, accompanied by Wilhelm Liebknecht and Edgar Bauer, drank in no less than 18 different pubs. In one of these, Marx's “inebriated comments”<ref>N. Ann Davis, Richard Keshen and Jeff McMahan, eds., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=DEQNjMMF4tkC Ethics and Humanity: Themes from the Philosophy of Jonathan Glover]'' (Oxford University Press, 2010) ISBN 0195325192, p. 278</ref> that Germany “would yet outclass all other nations” nearly got them, once again, into a fight. They fled into the street where, according to Liebknecht, “we broke four or five street lamps.”<ref>Wilhelm Liebknecht (Trans. Ernest Untermann), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=kEYv3uqzDvsC Karl Marx: Biographical Memoirs]'' (Chicago: C. H. Kerr & company, 1901), p. 150</ref> When he participated in this crime, Marx was a husband and father himself, nearly 40 years old.<ref>Boris Nicolaievsky and Otto Maenchen-Helfen, (Trans. Gwenda David and Eric Mosbacher), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=4rbH49xtcpkC Karl Marx: Man and Fighter]'' (London: Methuen, 1936) ISBN 1406727032, p. 40</ref>
 
His father's warning had no discernible effect. Years later, in London, Marx went on “many a pub crawl.”<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, pp. 6, 74. Cf. Jack Newcombe, "[http://books.google.com/books?id=8VMEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105#v=onepage&q&f=false The Karl Marx Memorial Pub Crawl]," ''Life'', October 25, 1968, pp. 105-106; "[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/86431.stm Cheers to Karl Marx], BBC, 1 May, 1998; Richard Newberry, "[http://www.lastampa.it/_web/CMSTP/tmplrubriche/giornalisti/grubrica.asp?ID_blog=145&ID_articolo=74&ID_sezione=308&sezione=A London Pub Crawl with Karl Marx]," ''La Stampa'', November 26, 2007</ref> On one of these, Marx, accompanied by Wilhelm Liebknecht and Edgar Bauer, drank in no less than 18 different pubs. In one of these, Marx's “inebriated comments”<ref>N. Ann Davis, Richard Keshen and Jeff McMahan, eds., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=DEQNjMMF4tkC Ethics and Humanity: Themes from the Philosophy of Jonathan Glover]'' (Oxford University Press, 2010) ISBN 0195325192, p. 278</ref> that Germany “would yet outclass all other nations” nearly got them, once again, into a fight. They fled into the street where, according to Liebknecht, “we broke four or five street lamps.”<ref>Wilhelm Liebknecht (Trans. Ernest Untermann), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=kEYv3uqzDvsC Karl Marx: Biographical Memoirs]'' (Chicago: C. H. Kerr & company, 1901), p. 150</ref> When he participated in this crime, Marx was a husband and father himself, nearly 40 years old.<ref>Boris Nicolaievsky and Otto Maenchen-Helfen, (Trans. Gwenda David and Eric Mosbacher), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=4rbH49xtcpkC Karl Marx: Man and Fighter]'' (London: Methuen, 1936) ISBN 1406727032, p. 40</ref>
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Young Marx's student revels seem to have been extravagantly expensive; at this time emerged what was to become a dominant theme of his life: his economic incompetence. On this score, Marx's father's letters tell a sorry tale:
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Marx's youthful bacchanalia seem to have been extravagantly expensive; while he was still a student, there emerged what was to become a dominant theme of his life: his economic incompetence. On this score, Marx's father's letters tell a sorry tale:
 
* “Your accounts, dear Karl, are... disconnected and inconclusive. If only they had been shorter and more precise, and the figures properly set out in columns, the operation would have been very simple. One expects order even from a scholar, and especially from a practical lawyer.... I enclose a money order for 50 talers...”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 648-652</ref>
 
* “Your accounts, dear Karl, are... disconnected and inconclusive. If only they had been shorter and more precise, and the figures properly set out in columns, the operation would have been very simple. One expects order even from a scholar, and especially from a practical lawyer.... I enclose a money order for 50 talers...”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 648-652</ref>
 
* “I sent... 50 talers. With what you took with you, that makes 160 talers.... I am convinced that it is possible to manage with less... But no more under any condition... I enclose a draft on... the lottery office in the university building; you will get money there, as m[uch as] you need.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl2.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], March 18, 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 652-653</ref>
 
* “I sent... 50 talers. With what you took with you, that makes 160 talers.... I am convinced that it is possible to manage with less... But no more under any condition... I enclose a draft on... the lottery office in the university building; you will get money there, as m[uch as] you need.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl2.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], March 18, 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 652-653</ref>
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