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::* I didn't call her words a rant, but the fact that you included her words to suggest that the gay victims do not actually matter. Not the point she wanted to make was the issue, but the point you wanted to make. [[User:Order]] 30 March, 10:15 AEST
::* I didn't call her words a rant, but the fact that you included her words to suggest that the gay victims do not actually matter. Not the point she wanted to make was the issue, but the point you wanted to make. [[User:Order]] 30 March, 10:15 AEST
:::*So, you attacked the messenger of bad news on two pages. And you have nothing, absolutely nothing, to refute Dawidowicz with. Then, given the sensitive nature of this subject, you impugned me rather than address Dawidowicz. How Wikipedia-esque. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:52, 29 March 2007 (EDT)
:::*So, you attacked the messenger of bad news on two pages. And you have nothing, absolutely nothing, to refute Dawidowicz with. Then, given the sensitive nature of this subject, you impugned me rather than address Dawidowicz. How Wikipedia-esque. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:52, 29 March 2007 (EDT)
::::* I didn't shoot the messenger. I was extermely annoyed at you as a sysop, who abuses his privileges to edit an article, without discussion, while his edits are contested. This whole episode of clinging stubbornly to one particular version cost more time than necessary. Because, in the end we were able to agree on something quite close to the compromise that was outlined in the very beginning. But due to an assymetry in power which was used in your atvanatge, we did fight over access, rather than over content. [[User:Order]] 5 April, 2:00 (AEST)
::::* In this context the Dawidowicz was inappropiate. And if you are looking for some arguments against the dawidowicz quote, just read the article that you qouted. I don't want to refute the Dawidowics article. It just unencyclopedic to plunge a quote, by someone who is not introduced, out of context, somewhere, without context. That is close to being a 'rant'.
:::::However, if you want to discuss the relative importance of gay victims, you can for example start with the fact that there where about 20000 or so gay victims (these numbers are by memory), which is not much compared to the 6 million dead jews, or 20 million dead russians. If you want to discuss it, discuss it with context. The way you dealt with it was bad, without context. From a long article describing the plight of homosexuals, you select the single sentence that rejects it. [[User:Order]] 5 April, 2:00 (AEST)
I unlocked Hitler. I locked it. What is the problem with it now, Order? Better than posting here, you know darn well how to get hold of me. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]]</sup> 22:12, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
I unlocked Hitler. I locked it. What is the problem with it now, Order? Better than posting here, you know darn well how to get hold of me. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]]</sup> 22:12, 22 March 2007 (EDT)