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Is it true that this claim is non-falsifiable? I don't think it is. We could falsify it by providing convincing evidence that Joe's father did not beat his children. For example, testimony of his father and mother and siblings, testimony of Joe himself, etc., could be sufficient to falsify the claim "Joe's father beat Joe as a child" and thus also the claim "Joe beats his children because his father beat him". Even if it is true that Joe's father beat him, that still doesn't mean we can't falsify the claim that  "Joe beats his children because his father beat him". Suppose Joe is a heavy drinker, but then gives up alcohol, and stops beating his children. If that happened, that would suggest it was the alcohol's fault, not the fact that Joe's father beat him, and thus falsify (at least in part) the claim that his own father beating him was the cause of him beating his own children. [[User:Maratrean|Maratrean]] 09:24, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
 
Is it true that this claim is non-falsifiable? I don't think it is. We could falsify it by providing convincing evidence that Joe's father did not beat his children. For example, testimony of his father and mother and siblings, testimony of Joe himself, etc., could be sufficient to falsify the claim "Joe's father beat Joe as a child" and thus also the claim "Joe beats his children because his father beat him". Even if it is true that Joe's father beat him, that still doesn't mean we can't falsify the claim that  "Joe beats his children because his father beat him". Suppose Joe is a heavy drinker, but then gives up alcohol, and stops beating his children. If that happened, that would suggest it was the alcohol's fault, not the fact that Joe's father beat him, and thus falsify (at least in part) the claim that his own father beating him was the cause of him beating his own children. [[User:Maratrean|Maratrean]] 09:24, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
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I hope I didn't mess up here.  I'm pretty green and I found this page from black holes- I found out a singularity of one is where wonderfully impossible things happen so I figured there must be a liberal utopia in there!  You talk about a paradox if ever there was one!  Really though, validity and soundness are basic components of human logic, and I thank the Lord every single day for that gift.
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