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:::Why do Christians ''not'' use their liberty as a cloak for unrighteousness? Because of law? No. Because they believe (i.e. have faith in) God.  They believe unhesitatingly what God says is true.  And by this faith (belief in God's word) they obtain grace and are freed from the curse of the law.  If any man sin, we an Advocate with the Father.  Next time your mediator other than Christ sentences you to three Hail Mary's and two Our Fathers, remember before you do your penance, ''all who rely on works of the law are under a curse''.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 23:21, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Why do Christians ''not'' use their liberty as a cloak for unrighteousness? Because of law? No. Because they believe (i.e. have faith in) God.  They believe unhesitatingly what God says is true.  And by this faith (belief in God's word) they obtain grace and are freed from the curse of the law.  If any man sin, we an Advocate with the Father.  Next time your mediator other than Christ sentences you to three Hail Mary's and two Our Fathers, remember before you do your penance, ''all who rely on works of the law are under a curse''.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 23:21, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

::::''all who rely on works of the law of Moses are under a curse.'' All who act and do works according to the law of righteousness are justified. "The doers of the law are justified." Romans 2:13. "Do we nullify the law by faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law." Romans 3:31. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Revelation 2–3. Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls. Hebrews 13:7,17. There is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore anyone who resists the authority resists what God has appointed, and those that resist will incur judgment. Romans 13:1-2. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Matthew 16:18-19. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them. Whose sins you retain and do not remove are retained and not removed. John 20:23. God has entrusted to them the ministry of reconciliation as the ambassadors of God who speak for God. 2 Corinthians 5:18-20. If anyone will not listen to the church, let him be to you as a sinful publican and an unbelieving pagan. Matthew 18:17. Why do you call Me Lord, and not do what I say? Luke 6:46-49; Matthew 7:21-27. "He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God." '''[https://biblehub.com/john/8-47.htm John 8:47]'''. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 03:21, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

::::''all who rely on works of the law of Moses are under a curse.'' All who act and do works according to the law of righteousness are justified. "The doers of the law are justified." Romans 2:13. "Do we nullify the law by faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law." Romans 3:31. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Revelation 2–3. Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls. Hebrews 13:7,17. There is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore anyone who resists the authority resists what God has appointed, and those that resist will incur judgment. Romans 13:1-2. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Matthew 16:18-19. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them. Whose sins you retain and do not remove are retained and not removed. John 20:23. God has entrusted to them the ministry of reconciliation as the ambassadors of God who speak for God. 2 Corinthians 5:18-20. If anyone will not listen to the church, let him be to you as a sinful publican and an unbelieving pagan. Matthew 18:17. Why do you call Me Lord, and not do what I say? Luke 6:46-49; Matthew 7:21-27. "He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God." '''[https://biblehub.com/john/8-47.htm John 8:47]'''. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 03:21, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Nice try, but you can't around ''ye are under grace and not under law''. I guess you're just not among the ''ye''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 03:32, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Nice try, but you can't get around ''ye are under grace and not under law''. I guess you're just not among the ''ye''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 03:32, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

:I/S says, "obedience leads to righteousness"; that's close, but no cigar. Once you realize obedience = faith, i.e. believing what God says in his Bible, and not just avoiding a spanking, you can resolve all your contradictions regarding being under the curse of the law. Faith leads to righteousness.  

:I/S says, "obedience leads to righteousness"; that's close, but no cigar. Once you realize obedience = faith, i.e. believing what God says in his Bible, and not just avoiding a spanking, you can resolve all your contradictions regarding being under the curse of the law. Faith leads to righteousness.