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Keep in mind also that such Big Government intervention works both ways--not just when the employee's views are in line with our own.  If the government stepped in to force a pro-life pharmacy owner to continue to employ a pharmacist who was giving referrals to Planned Parenthood on the grounds that his faith compelled him to be up-front with them about their options, would you applaud?  Or would you say that the employer should be able to terminate such an employee?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 11:54, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Keep in mind also that such Big Government intervention works both ways--not just when the employee's views are in line with our own.  If the government stepped in to force a pro-life pharmacy owner to continue to employ a pharmacist who was giving referrals to Planned Parenthood on the grounds that his faith compelled him to be up-front with them about their options, would you applaud?  Or would you say that the employer should be able to terminate such an employee?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 11:54, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

:I would say what I've been saying all along throughout this debate. The key to this that seems to have blown past just about everyone here is the 'being forced' part. It has nothing to do with "Big Government" and instead has everything to do with individual rights. Evidently this is something not taught in the school systems these days. It has to do with inalienable rights endowed by a Creator. Anybody ever heard of those? You cannot be forced to do anything, and I mean nobody can force you to do anything that's against your own conscience. Because it is against the law! It is against the law because it violates your inumerated rights as defined by the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights. The Pharmacist that has worked in a position for years or a couple decades cannot then be forced to then dispense a drug that violates their conscience. I would applaud if only some people would get this. The employee that has worked in a position for years or decades shouldn't have to be 'forced' or coerced to do anything they deem to be wrong just because of some political wind change. Nothin to do with big government, or affirmative action, but just plain 'ol common sense basic rights necessary for a civil society that affords equal protections under the law of the land.--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 10:19, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

:I would say what I've been saying all along throughout this debate. The key to this that seems to have blown past just about everyone here is the 'being forced' part. It has nothing to do with "Big Government" and instead has everything to do with individual rights. Evidently this is something not taught in the school systems these days. It has to do with inalienable rights endowed by a Creator. Anybody ever heard of those? You cannot be forced to do anything, and I mean nobody can force you to do anything that's against your own conscience. Because it is against the law! It is against the law because it violates your inumerated rights as defined by the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights. The Pharmacist that has worked in a position for years or a couple decades cannot then be forced to then dispense a drug that violates their conscience. I would applaud if only some people would get this. The employee that has worked in a position for years or decades shouldn't have to be 'forced' or coerced to do anything they deem to be wrong just because of some political wind change. Nothin to do with big government, or affirmative action, but just plain 'ol common sense basic rights necessary for a civil society that affords equal protections under the law of the land.--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 10:19, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

::Let's say, Roo, that I am a doctor.  In fact, let's make it even more specific.  Let's say I'm Terry Schiavo's doctor.  I, as her doctor, listen to her husband who says she doesn't want to be on a feeding tube, and so I take out the tube.  Then, let's say the FL legislature passed a law stating she has to be put back on the feeding tube.  But I, as her doctor, believe it is wrong to go against what I believe her wishes are.  Would you agree with my decision not to reinsert her feeding tube.  I mean, I've been a doctor for years, and I can't be forced to do something I believe is wrong just because of some political wind change.  Would you applaud my decision to stand firm on my beliefs, or would you expect me to follow the law and expect me to carry out the duties of my job? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 10:24, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

::Let's say, Roo, that I am a doctor.  In fact, let's make it even more specific.  Let's say I'm Terry Schiavo's doctor.  I, as her doctor, listen to her husband who says she doesn't want to be on a feeding tube, and so I take out the tube.  Then, let's say the FL legislature passed a law stating she has to be put back on the feeding tube.  But I, as her doctor, believe it is wrong to go against what I believe her wishes are.  Would you agree with my decision not to reinsert her feeding tube.  I mean, I've been a doctor for years, and I can't be forced to do something I believe is wrong just because of some political wind change.  Would you applaud my decision to stand firm on my beliefs, or would you expect me to follow the law and expect me to carry out the duties of my job? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 10:24, 29 June 2008 (EDT)