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Mathematical derivations are also commonly used to support a theory and predict results, but only an experiment can provide conclusive evidence (relativity, for example, could not have been predicted by math alone).  
 
Mathematical derivations are also commonly used to support a theory and predict results, but only an experiment can provide conclusive evidence (relativity, for example, could not have been predicted by math alone).  
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==Scientific treatment of theories and facts==
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1) If a theory has no proof it remains an abstract concept<s>, that will not be thought in schools</s>.
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::*Abstract concepts are taught in schools.
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    Example: String theory in physics has not yet been proven.
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<s>2) If a theory can never be proven or disproven it is not considered to be scientific and science  will not study it.
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    Example: the existence of God(s) can never be proven or disproven by scientific experiments,
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    and the concept cannot be captured by mathematics.</s>
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::* Poor explanation of falsifiability.
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3) If a theory can never be proven but it CAN be disproven by at least one repeatable scientific
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experiment the theory will be considered to be false.
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    <s>Example: YEC can be disproven through examining DNA which tells the biological history of 
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    humanity such as the [[Black Death]] in the 14th century and a near extinction of humanity
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    around 70.000 B.C. <ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/166869.stm]Humans came close to extinction, BBC World News</ref>. </s>
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::* The reference doesn't support the claim that ''examining DNA'' shows that humans came close to extinction.
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::* The argument in the referenced article is speculation.
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::* No evidence is offered that ''examinig DNA'' shows evidence of the "Black Death", and even if it did, this does not falsify Young-Earth creation.
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Alternatively (this is an example of how the scientific method works):
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    - From recent impacts (Siberia, 1908) and space probes we know meteorites and asteroids often 
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      have a chemical composition which is rare on Earth.
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    - A large crater has been found on the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico.
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    - The Rocky underground near the crater contains significant amounts of chemical compounds common
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      in meteorites, but rare on Earth, especially in such concentrations.
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    - The Rocky underground near the crater shows signs of a tremendous energy release: natural
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      glass, etc...
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    - We can calculate the energy that would be required to create a crater that size.
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    - An impact of this scale has been found to be many times greater than that of a nuclear
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      explosion.
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    <s>- We know an event like this would cause a mass extinction of which nature would need many 
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      thousands of years to recover.</s>
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::* No, we don't "know" that.  A mass extinction is a real possibility, but not a fact, and we don't "know" that it would take thousands of years for nature to recover.
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    - We know the ecosystems of Earth are well balanced and prosperous (before the industrial
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      revolution anyway).
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    - Therefore we know Earth has recovered from the meteorite impact.
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    <s>- Therefore we know the impact happened many thousands of years ago.
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    - Therefore we know the Earth has to be many thousands of years old.</s>
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::* These conclusions are based on the earlier faulty argument.
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4) If a theory can be proven by at least one repeatable scientific experiment it will be considered a
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scientific fact.
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    Example 1: The Earth is round because that shape is consistent with the laws of gravitation and
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    the Earth's curvature can clearly be seen from high altitudes or space.
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    Example 2: Relativity has been verified in at least two different ways:
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    [http://www.answers.com/topic/hafele-keating-experiment| Hafele-Keating experiment and later experiments with more accurate clocks]
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    [http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html| GPS and relativity]
      
==References==
 
==References==
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