| | :::::::Andy, you are correct of course--that case was filed earlier. I should have checked before mentioning it. In any case, 1990'sguy makes some good points. The ADF is still doing good in their specialized area of focus, and our article should reflect that. It probably should also mention this oddity, but not in a way which outright condemns them in the first sentence. As for this coup to which you are referring, I tried doing some research on it, but found nothing of interest. Michael Farris is still the head and CEO, and other than that, I'm not finding much. Who took control from who? Is there an article or other such resource explaining it? I'm curious, since I'd heard nothing about it. I would like to get a better idea of what is going on. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 00:08, 27 June 2018 (EDT) | | :::::::Andy, you are correct of course--that case was filed earlier. I should have checked before mentioning it. In any case, 1990'sguy makes some good points. The ADF is still doing good in their specialized area of focus, and our article should reflect that. It probably should also mention this oddity, but not in a way which outright condemns them in the first sentence. As for this coup to which you are referring, I tried doing some research on it, but found nothing of interest. Michael Farris is still the head and CEO, and other than that, I'm not finding much. Who took control from who? Is there an article or other such resource explaining it? I'm curious, since I'd heard nothing about it. I would like to get a better idea of what is going on. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 00:08, 27 June 2018 (EDT) |
| | + | ::::::::I want to emphasize again that I have an open mind about this. But there was a marked change in leadership, a coup, that occurred in January 2017 at ADF. It was a surprise, as the longtime [[conservative]], [[pro-life]] founder Alan Sears was replaced by the older, Trump-critic, Michael Farris. Now it's nearly July 2018. The ADF entry can have an historical section but its intro should reflect what the organization is doing now, not what it once did under prior management. And what ADF does now is to go out of its way to disclaim Trump in the biggest case of the year. |
| | + | ::::::::Does the ADF still do good work? It might. I agree it's not the [[ACLU]]. I'm sure there are still good people at ADF. But when a restaurant has new management, restaurant reviews do not credit or punish them based on what prior management did 2+ years ago. Here, we strive to provide candid, up-to-date info even as things change. And, by the way, the Kochs and their dark money may have been part of that January 2017 coup at ADF, so saying ADF is not like the Kochs may be a bit ironic.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:34, 27 June 2018 (EDT) |