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:::::Kind of a moot point at this point. Dr. Zelenko's method has been approved by the FDA for more testing and distribution already. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:12, 1 April 2020 (EDT) | :::::Kind of a moot point at this point. Dr. Zelenko's method has been approved by the FDA for more testing and distribution already. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:12, 1 April 2020 (EDT) | ||
:::::You might also want to tread carefully here, JLind - some folks might not interpret what you're resorting to or saying here too well. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (EDT) | :::::You might also want to tread carefully here, JLind - some folks might not interpret what you're resorting to or saying here too well. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (EDT) | ||
| + | :::::: NW: So now I’m protesting the TRUTH. How so? Simply pointing out the skepticism within the medical community concerning Dr Zelenko’s practices is… what? Liberal? Kind of boggles the mind. I could accept constructive criticism on your part, but your mindless knee-jerk reaction to anything that questions your preconceived partisan political opinions, is quite frankly, humorous. I know you can do better. Let’s see you make a reasoned argument against the professional opinions of Zelenko’s colleagues. Anything else is a waste of time, but based on your previous comments, I predict you will do no such thing. As for treading lightly? Yawn… I’m operating well within the commandments. But if you want me gone from Conservapedia, I’m sure there is an administrator who will oblige. | ||
| + | RobS: What are you talking about? What method? What distribution? Are you talking about the off-label use of medications? The same method other doctors around the world are using? The same off-label use the FDA has authorized for eons? --[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 13:36, 2 April 2020 (EDT) | ||
:Speaking of [[vaccines]], have any of you seen [https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/leading-coronavirus-vaccine-development-using-cells-of-aborted-babies this article]? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]'''''</sup> 23:56, 1 April 2020 (EDT) | :Speaking of [[vaccines]], have any of you seen [https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/leading-coronavirus-vaccine-development-using-cells-of-aborted-babies this article]? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]'''''</sup> 23:56, 1 April 2020 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 17:36, April 2, 2020
The doctor said on his YouTube video he diagnosed his patients by using the CDC(?) test or symptoms of the disease. I’d like to know the ratio of tests to symptom diagnosis. This cure seems to good to be true. People should also realize a treatment is not the same as a vaccine. Most of Big Pharma does not care to research vaccines for the simple reason a drug given to a person once or twice in their life is not a money maker. For example, metformin is a drug used by millions of diabetics daily for the rest of their lives after first use. I’d also like to see better references. WND and Gateway Pundit are not reliable sources, others should be found.
It should also be mentioned, Dr. Irina Gelman, the Orange County health commissioner, said on March 19 that it was “highly irresponsible” for Zelenko to try to extrapolate the results of 14 tests to apply to the entire village population. [1] --JLind (talk) 21:48, 28 March 2020 (EDT)
- Fourteen? Dr. Zelenko claimed he treated hundreds with the regimen! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 02:45, 30 March 2020 (EDT)
- Please read the link provided. The doctor was admonished for extrapolating the results of 14 tests to apply to the entire village population. --JLind (talk) 00:39, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- WND and Gateway Pundit are better (and more reliable and credible) sources for this article than CNN, MSNBC, the nightly network newscasts, the New York Times or the rest of the liberal media (and that includes the link you provided, which is tied to USA Today, a liberal newspaper). Congratulations, you just discredited your argument by relying on a non-credible liberal media source. Northwest (talk) 04:34, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- Amazing how you can simply wave your hand like a Jedi and claim someone’s credibility is discredited by saying LIBERAL! No need to explain why the article in question is suspect, just say LIBERAL! Your way of arguing is incredibly easy. LIBERAL! LIBERAL! Then take a break. Wow.--JLind (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- All you're doing by protesting in that way against the truth (which isn't helping your argument either, BTW) is proving my point, as well as showing your refusal to take responsibility for posting sources that resort to lies based on politics and ideology (which all liberal news sites do), all to suit their narratives and their personal opinions which they try to masquerade as "news". Northwest (talk) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- What about these two references? Wonder if you have a problem with a Jewish website critiquing a Jewish doctor? [2][3] --JLind (talk) 22:57, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- Kind of a moot point at this point. Dr. Zelenko's method has been approved by the FDA for more testing and distribution already. RobSDe Plorabus Unum 23:12, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- You might also want to tread carefully here, JLind - some folks might not interpret what you're resorting to or saying here too well. Northwest (talk) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- NW: So now I’m protesting the TRUTH. How so? Simply pointing out the skepticism within the medical community concerning Dr Zelenko’s practices is… what? Liberal? Kind of boggles the mind. I could accept constructive criticism on your part, but your mindless knee-jerk reaction to anything that questions your preconceived partisan political opinions, is quite frankly, humorous. I know you can do better. Let’s see you make a reasoned argument against the professional opinions of Zelenko’s colleagues. Anything else is a waste of time, but based on your previous comments, I predict you will do no such thing. As for treading lightly? Yawn… I’m operating well within the commandments. But if you want me gone from Conservapedia, I’m sure there is an administrator who will oblige.
- Amazing how you can simply wave your hand like a Jedi and claim someone’s credibility is discredited by saying LIBERAL! No need to explain why the article in question is suspect, just say LIBERAL! Your way of arguing is incredibly easy. LIBERAL! LIBERAL! Then take a break. Wow.--JLind (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- WND and Gateway Pundit are better (and more reliable and credible) sources for this article than CNN, MSNBC, the nightly network newscasts, the New York Times or the rest of the liberal media (and that includes the link you provided, which is tied to USA Today, a liberal newspaper). Congratulations, you just discredited your argument by relying on a non-credible liberal media source. Northwest (talk) 04:34, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- Please read the link provided. The doctor was admonished for extrapolating the results of 14 tests to apply to the entire village population. --JLind (talk) 00:39, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
RobS: What are you talking about? What method? What distribution? Are you talking about the off-label use of medications? The same method other doctors around the world are using? The same off-label use the FDA has authorized for eons? --JLind (talk) 13:36, 2 April 2020 (EDT)
- Speaking of vaccines, have any of you seen this article? --LiberaltearsYour reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe 23:56, 1 April 2020 (EDT)
- Quite disturbing indeed. Even worse, traditionally conservative religious denominations like the Church won't put up a sufficient fight against such! They claim to oppose vaccines made from aborted fetuses, but still advocate for people to inject into their bodies a vaccine even if it's known that the vaccine was derived from an aborted fetus! (see here) --LiberaltearsYour reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe 00:48, 2 April 2020 (EDT)