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Talk:Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
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:::As of this hour, RobS hasn't said a pope has yet. But he did say a pope can. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 08:23, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
:::As of this hour, RobS hasn't said a pope has yet. But he did say a pope can. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 08:23, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
:::I have to admit, the wave after wave of powerful emotions you have churned up make them seem almost impossible to quell. But they have leapt up into your thinking as well and have carried you away far beyond the bounds of reason. If you expect to carry on the conversation, please scale down the reach of your conclusions to more reasonable levels before proceeding. I think RobS will agree that if you do with sincerity, he will excuse in the same measure this histrionic outburst. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 09:07, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
::::RobSmith's saying "a pope can" is also a lie. No pope would get away with doing what RobSmith says he could do. He would be excommunicated and any false doctrine would be condemned. Not only that, but not one of the notorious "bad popes" ever changed Catholic doctrine. Which is a miracle in itself. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:40, 12 September 2020 (EDT)<br>Look at this article '''https://churchpop.com/2019/10/09/a-demon-from-hell-the-7-worst-popes-in-the-catholic-churchs-history/ '''. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:45, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
::::RobSmith's saying "a pope can" is also a lie. No pope would get away with doing what RobSmith says he could do. He would be excommunicated and any false doctrine would be condemned. Not only that, but not one of the notorious "bad popes" ever changed Catholic doctrine. Which is a miracle in itself. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:40, 12 September 2020 (EDT)<br>Look at this article '''https://churchpop.com/2019/10/09/a-demon-from-hell-the-7-worst-popes-in-the-catholic-churchs-history/ '''. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:45, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
::::RobS is speaking about conclusions he sees to be drawn from the nature of the limits (or lack) of the office of the pope's power itself. Even long experience may not entirely refute his position. If the pope's task is to be of a limited nature, shouldn't there be limits on the nature of the office's power? Maybe RobS has an opinion about that too, so please don't sweep him away before he has a chance to answer. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 09:07, 12 September 2020 (EDT)