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, 23:51, June 9, 2007→RobS deleting factual edits with valid citations: Explaining things to NitramNos
Finally, a voice of reason! Thank you Fox. Can you tell me how to tell if a site is a wikimirror site? I am tired of being falsely accused and threatened by RobS. I am tired of the vandalism RobS perpetrates on perfectly valid additions to articles that follow all Conservapedia guidelines (although I admit I am in the dark about what sites and what sites are not the dreaded wikimirrorr sites). NitramNos 16:00, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
Finally, a voice of reason! Thank you Fox. Can you tell me how to tell if a site is a wikimirror site? I am tired of being falsely accused and threatened by RobS. I am tired of the vandalism RobS perpetrates on perfectly valid additions to articles that follow all Conservapedia guidelines (although I admit I am in the dark about what sites and what sites are not the dreaded wikimirrorr sites). NitramNos 16:00, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
:NitramNos, you should be able to tell if a site has copied articles from Wikipedia by looking for somewhere on the page where they say so. Wikipedia material is copyrighted under the GNU licence, which means (among other things) that other sites can copy it, but ''must acknowledge'' that it came from Wikipedia. It's always possible, of course, that a site might copy it without acknowledging it (thus breaking the law), but normally it will be acknowledged, so look for that acknowledgement; that's how you can tell. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:51, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
:::::The clock is running on NitramNos. The lesson to be taken from all this is, the bigotry that Wikipedia is known for ''will not'' be imposed on us here. We shall determine our own content, from constuctive and cooperative editors, not trolls attempting to spoon feed us wiki-pap during the incessant vandalism intended to distract us. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:17, 8 June 2007 (EDT)
:::::The clock is running on NitramNos. The lesson to be taken from all this is, the bigotry that Wikipedia is known for ''will not'' be imposed on us here. We shall determine our own content, from constuctive and cooperative editors, not trolls attempting to spoon feed us wiki-pap during the incessant vandalism intended to distract us. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:17, 8 June 2007 (EDT)
::On the contrary, you have not answered my question. What do you mean that I "tried to hide the wikimirror?" I have not the faintest idea what you are talking about and suspect that you are letting your paranoid imagination run away with you. How does one "hide a wikimirrror?" How does one "try to hide a wikimirror" and fail? What does that have to do with "inserting a red link to Counter-Reformation?" What are you talking about? Could someone enlighten me as to what RobS is getting at, as he seems unable or unwilling to clue me in? NitramNos 17:37, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
::On the contrary, you have not answered my question. What do you mean that I "tried to hide the wikimirror?" I have not the faintest idea what you are talking about and suspect that you are letting your paranoid imagination run away with you. How does one "hide a wikimirrror?" How does one "try to hide a wikimirror" and fail? What does that have to do with "inserting a red link to Counter-Reformation?" What are you talking about? Could someone enlighten me as to what RobS is getting at, as he seems unable or unwilling to clue me in? NitramNos 17:37, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
:::I have just finished comparing the page from which I drew my material on Michelangelo and the Wikipedia page on the same topic. They are organized differently, worded differently, and have a dfferent focus. Obviously, as they are both about the same historical individual, they contain some of the same information. Equally obviously they were written by different individuals. My conclusion, and that of any reasonable person, is that it is definitely NOT a wikimirrror, and RobS's charges are entirely unfounded. I would suggest that Conservapedia has a loose cannon on its hands in the person of RobS and that his arbitrary and rather wild accusations will prove to be an embarrassment. NitramNos 18:21, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
:::I have just finished comparing the page from which I drew my material on Michelangelo and the Wikipedia page on the same topic. They are organized differently, worded differently, and have a dfferent focus. Obviously, as they are both about the same historical individual, they contain some of the same information. Equally obviously they were written by different individuals. My conclusion, and that of any reasonable person, is that it is definitely NOT a wikimirrror, and RobS's charges are entirely unfounded. I would suggest that Conservapedia has a loose cannon on its hands in the person of RobS and that his arbitrary and rather wild accusations will prove to be an embarrassment. NitramNos 18:21, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
::::You need to be a lot more cautious in accusing people. Ask questions to find out if perhaps ''you'' are wrong before throwing around accusations. You might think that you have a watertight argument here regarding Wikipedia, but you do not. As Fox has (and now I have) explained above, it ''says'' that it has copied the material from Wikipedia, so that in itself makes it very hard for you to argue otherwise. But the real point is that you have not ruled out (and this is almost certainly the case) that it was copied from ''an earlier version'' of the Wikipedia article. It doesn't read the same ''now'', but Wikipedia articles keep changing of course.
::::By the same token, many others tend to throw around accusations too freely too, often assuming that the person that they are criticising understands more than they actually do. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:51, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
Right here [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Censorship&diff=prev&oldid=193249] bottom of the page,
Right here [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Censorship&diff=prev&oldid=193249] bottom of the page,