Changes

4,287 bytes added ,  15:56, May 1, 2023
no edit summary
Line 212: Line 212:     
RationalWiki's main page indicates that the purpose of the website is "Analyzing and refuting pseudoscience and the anti-science movement" and "Documenting the full range of crank ideas".<ref>[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page RationalWiki's main page]</ref>  User: Spud's advocacy of eating ultra-processed/processed junk food (which poses health risks) is at variance with these two purported missions of RationalWiki.
 
RationalWiki's main page indicates that the purpose of the website is "Analyzing and refuting pseudoscience and the anti-science movement" and "Documenting the full range of crank ideas".<ref>[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page RationalWiki's main page]</ref>  User: Spud's advocacy of eating ultra-processed/processed junk food (which poses health risks) is at variance with these two purported missions of RationalWiki.
 +
==== User: Spud admits his RationalWiki post advocating RationalWikians eat ultra-processed/unhealthy/junk food caused them harm if they engaged in the eating of such food, but appears to hypocritically maintain that this was not wrong and engaged in no science denial ====
 +
 +
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]
 +
 +
[[File:Hippocrates.jpg|thumbnail|200px|left|Drawing depicting [[Hippocrates]] ]]
 +
On May 1, 2023, User: Spud wrote about his post advocating that people eat processed/ultra-processed food: "...there was no science denial involved. When did I say processed food was healthy? I'll tell you when. Never. That's when. Of course, it's bad for you. Every nudnik knows that. I would never suggest that anyone should eat large quantities of it or eat it regularly. But indulging once a year on 30 April isn't going to do anybody much harm."<ref>[https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spud&diff=2545354&oldid=2545211 Latest revision as of 13:38, 1 May 2023 (view source) Spud (talk | contribs)]</ref>
 +
 +
According to the National Institutes of Health website:
 +
{{Cquote|The [[Hippocratic Oath]] (Ορκος) is perhaps the most widely known of Greek medical texts. It requires a new physician to swear upon a number of healing gods that he will uphold a number of professional ethical standards. It also strongly binds the student to his teacher and the greater community of physicians with responsibilities similar to that of a family member. In fact, the creation of the Oath may have marked the early stages of medical training to those outside the first families of Hippocratic medicine, the Asclepiads of Kos, by requiring strict loyalty.
 +
 +
Over the centuries, it has been rewritten often in order to suit the values of different cultures influenced by Greek medicine. Contrary to popular belief, the Hippocratic Oath is not required by most modern medical schools, although some have adopted modern versions that suit many in the profession in the 21st century. It also does not explicitly contain the phrase, "First, do no harm," which is commonly attributed to it."<ref>[https://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_oath.html#:~:text=The%20Hippocratic%20Oath%20(%CE%9F%CF%81%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%82)%20is,number%20of%20professional%20ethical%20standards. Greek Medicine], National Institutes of Health</ref>}}
 +
 +
The Hippocratic Oath is widely known for its advocacy of "Do no harm".  The oath does not advocate the much weaker and morally inferior position of not doing "much harm" which User: Spud uses in his [[Rationalization (Psychology)|rationalization]] of his bad behavior.
 +
 +
User: Spud is an atheist. Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].<ref>
 +
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by
 +
Paul Copan
 +
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams
 +
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister
 +
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]</ref> See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]
 +
 +
The Greek philosopher [[Aristotle]] wrote: “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.” Before User: Spud made his post advocating eating ultra-processed/processed/junk food, his user page prominently featured the junk food of french fries atop its page. And his user page still prominently displays french fries which is a type of junk food.<ref>[https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Spud&oldid=2543911 User: Spud's user page]</ref>
 +
 +
And of course, every bad habit such as the eating of ultra-processed/processed/junk food begins with its first act. Young and impressionable viewers of the User: Spud's post could begin a lifelong habit of eating ultra-processed/processed/junk food due to his low-quality web content relative to this unhealthy food.
    
=== Trent Toulouse (one of the founders of the website RationalWiki) and obesity ===
 
=== Trent Toulouse (one of the founders of the website RationalWiki) and obesity ===
Irenaeus, Siteadmin, Check users, oversight, Administrators
351,851

edits