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Another point since I'm asking about the Talmud: is there any basis, at least from your perspective, to suspect that the Talmud attempts to discredit the [[Book of Daniel]] to a certain extent since chapter 9 foretells the coming of the Messiah? For example, it appears that [https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1735365/jewish/Why-Isnt-the-Book-of-Daniel-Part-of-the-Prophets.htm Daniel isn't listed as a prophet].

Another point since I'm asking about the Talmud: is there any basis, at least from your perspective, to suspect that the Talmud attempts to discredit the [[Book of Daniel]] to a certain extent since chapter 9 foretells the coming of the Messiah? For example, it appears that [https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1735365/jewish/Why-Isnt-the-Book-of-Daniel-Part-of-the-Prophets.htm Daniel isn't listed as a prophet].

And the other argument I've seen is this probably fake quote, propagated by some Christian lecturers like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1sAOKF9rOI&list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795&index=7&t=4648s Prof. W. J. Veith]:

And the other argument I've seen is this probably fake quote, propagated by some Christian lecturers like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1sAOKF9rOI&list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795&index=7&t=4648s Prof. W. J. Veith] (just as a warning: that section of the Veith lecture is kinda harsh and may come off antisemitic):

{{cquote|May the bones of the hands and bones of the fingers decay and decompose of him who turns the pages of the book of Daniel, to find out the time of Daniel 9:24–27, and may his memory rot from off the face of the earth forever.|||allegedly "Talmudic Law, p. 978, Section 2, Line 28"}}

{{cquote|May the bones of the hands and bones of the fingers decay and decompose of him who turns the pages of the book of Daniel, to find out the time of Daniel 9:24–27, and may his memory rot from off the face of the earth forever.|||allegedly "Talmudic Law, p. 978, Section 2, Line 28"}}