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Concentration camps were established by Lord Kitchener during the Boer War in South Africa, and possibly by the Spanish on Cuba, both during the 1890's.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:59, 2 August 2007 (EDT)
 
Concentration camps were established by Lord Kitchener during the Boer War in South Africa, and possibly by the Spanish on Cuba, both during the 1890's.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:59, 2 August 2007 (EDT)
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:This is someone elses quote, but '''The Ukrainians were the victims of the First Concentration Camps because there was no rebellion, “insurrection” or “war”. The Cuban Insurrection was exactly that - and no matter how many infants died during the Boer War, their families were at war.''" [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]

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Factual edits with sources needed here. First, it was primarily Jews, political dissidents, gypsies and homosexuals killed in the camps. By sheer numbers, Jewish deaths far exceeded all others. Second, it is not true that the camps were unknown until found by allied troops. For example, FDR knew of the camps and their significance quite early in the war, but felt that defeating Germany was the best way to help, rather than directly bombing train lines, etc. Palmd001 15:57, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Anne Applebaum (see external link) says the concept predates the Boer War. John Toland says Indian Reservations were t he first concentration camps. Nonetheless, the term known as "concentration camp" as a appearing in the literature, was first coined by Lenin. RobS 22:12, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

The term itself was first used during the Boer War. See, for instance, the Fawcett Commission report from 1902, here:

http://library.stanford.edu/africa/pplcx.html

entitled "Report on the Concentration Camps in South Africa"--Steve 10
08, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Bosnian Camps

I have removed the section on the Bosnian camp. As focused on in the article, concentration camps are set up to systematically wipe out large populations over a period of time based upon decisions made from the highest levels of a regime. The death rate, both for the Nazis and for the Russians, was in the millions. The Bosnian Camp, while brutal, resulted in the death to over 100 people, a different level of scope. To equate this to German or Soviet concentration camps does not seem to be a fair comparison. I hope you understand. Learn together 03:09, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

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"The Soviet Union created the world's first concentration camp system with a network of prisons and labor camps" is false. Read this bill of the Canadian parliament stating that the Canadians placed Ukrainians in concentration camps from 1914-1920. This was before the Soviets. Bohdan 15:54, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Concentration camps were established by Lord Kitchener during the Boer War in South Africa, and possibly by the Spanish on Cuba, both during the 1890's. Karajou 15:59, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

This is someone elses quote, but 'The Ukrainians were the victims of the First Concentration Camps because there was no rebellion, “insurrection” or “war”. The Cuban Insurrection was exactly that - and no matter how many infants died during the Boer War, their families were at war." Bohdan