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Mr. Cohn. Tell us what happened.
Mr. Cohn. Tell us what happened.
Sen. McCarthy. Were you picked up by the policemen?
Mr. Varley. The policemen did talk to me, but I was not arrested.
Mr. Varley. The policemen did talk to me, but I was not arrested.
Sen. McCarthy. Did they take you along with them?
Mr. Varley The policemen told me that—
Mr. Varley The policemen told me that—
Sen. McCarthy. Did they take you along with them?
Mr. Varley. No, they didn’t. The policemen told me, as I recollect it, that after we had very brief discussion, “Let the magistrate’s court figure that out,” words to that effect.
Mr. Varley. No, they didn’t. The policemen told me, as I recollect it, that after we had very brief discussion, “Let the magistrate’s court figure that out,” words to that effect.
Sen. McCarthy. Did they take you down to the magistrate?
Mr. Varley. We went to the magistrate’s court, all together.
Mr. Varley. We went to the magistrate’s court, all together.
Sen. McCarthy. The policemen picked you up, they took you down to the magistrate; is that right?
Mr. Varley. He didn’t pick me up. He said that “Well, let all of us go to the magistrate court.”
Mr. Varley. He didn’t pick me up. He said that “Well, let all of us go to the magistrate court.”
Sen. McCarthy. All right. When I say “picked you up,” what do you understand that I mean?
You said he didn’t pick you up. What do you think it means to get picked up?
You said he didn’t pick you up. What do you think it means to get picked up?
Mr. Varley. That the counsel says, to be arrested.
Mr. Varley. That the counsel says, to be arrested.
Sen. McCarthy. And the policeman came in and took you to the magistrate; is that right?
Mr. Varley. He said, “Let’s go to the magistrate.” He didn’t say, “You are arrested.” I didn’t resist—
Mr. Varley. He said, “Let’s go to the magistrate.” He didn’t say, “You are arrested.” I didn’t resist—
Sen. McCarthy. Did he take you down in a police car? Did they take you down in a police car?
Mr. Varley. I think it was an ordinary automobile.
Mr. Varley. I think it was an ordinary automobile.
Sen. McCarthy. They took you down in their car, did they?
Mr. Varley. We went in their car.
Mr. Varley. We went in their car.
Sen. McCarthy. All right. They took you to the magistrate?
Mr. Varley. We went down to the magistrate’s court.
Mr. Varley. We went down to the magistrate’s court.
Sen. McCarthy. They took you in their car to the magistrate, is that correct?
Mr. Varley. May I say how I remember what happened?
Mr. Varley. May I say how I remember what happened?
Sen. McCarthy. No, you answer my questions. I may say that if the policeman’s testimony is correct, you perjured yourself about three times now. You can keep on if you want to, or you can tell us the truth.
I will repeat the question: Did they take you in their car to the magistrate? Either yes or no?
I will repeat the question: Did they take you in their car to the magistrate? Either yes or no?
Mr. Varley. Yes.
Mr. Varley. Yes.
Sen. McCarthy. They did, all right. Did they file charges against you?
Mr. Varley. Yes, there was a summons by a policeman.
Mr. Varley. Yes, there was a summons by a policeman.
Sen. McCarthy. All right. And were you found guilty?
Mr. Varley. I pleaded guilty.
Mr. Varley. I pleaded guilty.
Sen. McCarthy. You pleaded guilty?
Mr. Varley. Yes.
Mr. Varley. Yes.
Mr. Varley. I paid a fine.
Mr. Varley. I paid a fine.
Sen. McCarthy. And did you pay the other man’s fine, too?
Mr. Varley. I did.
Mr. Varley. I did.
Sen. McCarthy. You say you were never arrested?
Mr. Varley. Yes, sir.
Mr. Varley. Yes, sir.
Sen. McCarthy. Mr. Cohn, I want this transmitted to the U.S. attorney, a clear case of perjury.
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