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::::But consider that the Scriptures give a vignette into a future world (new heaven/earth) in which the redeemed will be incapable of sinning and yet will not be robots. So God can have it either way, opt for no creation (including the angels) and no disobedience, or a time in which His creatures would fall, be redeemed, then live in sinless perfection.  [[User:Qwestor|Qwestor]] 17:28, 29 December 2007 (EST)
 
::::But consider that the Scriptures give a vignette into a future world (new heaven/earth) in which the redeemed will be incapable of sinning and yet will not be robots. So God can have it either way, opt for no creation (including the angels) and no disobedience, or a time in which His creatures would fall, be redeemed, then live in sinless perfection.  [[User:Qwestor|Qwestor]] 17:28, 29 December 2007 (EST)
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:::::Then doesn't this bring us round to intuitionism? The idea that humans inherently know what is good and evil, and although we can be influenced by decisions, it is still down to the human to make that choice, and as a result even two people who have agreed on almost everything can disagree on some things as well. --[[User:Metatron|Metatron]] 19:31, 29 December 2007 (EST)
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