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:: You called someone else's moral views "archaic", and when you were told to stop by a sysop, you ignored that and tried to claim rights that you don't have. So you have no grounds to argue that your block was purely because you disagreed with Karajou. It was your manner of disagreeing that was the problem. We don't block liberals here for holding liberal views, but we do block people for being rude and demeaning. Unfortunately, it seems that many liberals can't tell the difference.
:: You called someone else's moral views "archaic", and when you were told to stop by a sysop, you ignored that and tried to claim rights that you don't have. So you have no grounds to argue that your block was purely because you disagreed with Karajou. It was your manner of disagreeing that was the problem. We don't block liberals here for holding liberal views, but we do block people for being rude and demeaning. Unfortunately, it seems that many liberals can't tell the difference.
:: Now instead of playing the victim, I suggest that you start contributing productively. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:03, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:: Now instead of playing the victim, I suggest that you start contributing productively. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:03, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:::For me to call anyone's views as archaic is like a conservative calling me or my views immoral because you disagree with them. Do you think that homosexuality is immoral? Yes. This you cannot deny. So, by extension, I am immoral for supporting and doing everything i can to uphold gay rights such as marriage and adoption. It's all a matter of perspective. Religious Conservatives will say some of the harshest things (i.e. referring to things and people as perverse, disgusting, ungodly, immoral...) simply because they represent an ideal of morality that differs from theirs. I was not being rude nor was i any more demeaning that some things I've seen on this site that refer to people like me. I thought talks pages were designed to get people talking. If this site's idea of a talks page is a mutual admiration society then so be it. I thought i would be able to have frank, honest, and civil discussions. If not. Also, so be it. I haven't vandalized a single page not do I intend to. I did not break any of the commandments, either. I'm simply here for debate. If this is forbidden, please let me know and I'll refrain.--[[User:Incide|Incide]] 17:18, 24 January 2008 (EST)