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In regard to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Science&diff=402631&oldid=402339], [[Flat Earth|Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's radius]] and [http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Callippus.html Callippus calculated the length of a solar year]. [[User:Drochld|Drochld]] 19:51, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
 
In regard to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Science&diff=402631&oldid=402339], [[Flat Earth|Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's radius]] and [http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Callippus.html Callippus calculated the length of a solar year]. [[User:Drochld|Drochld]] 19:51, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
 
:Does astronomy count? If so, you could use the entire Mayan civilization. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 20:23, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
 
:Does astronomy count? If so, you could use the entire Mayan civilization. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 20:23, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
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: It might depend to some extent on what you call "science".  See for example these quotes from a review of [[Rodney Stark|Rodney Stark's]] book[http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/1581/]:
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{{QuoteBox|India, China, Persia, Greece and Rome all had venerable traditions of scholarship but why did only Christian Europe develop science?}}
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{{QuoteBox|The Greeks pursued learning with great zeal but there remained always a gap between their speculative philosophy and their observation.}}
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: These both indicate that science didn't exist before Christian Europe.
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: So were Eratosthenes' and Callippus' works not quite what we'd refer to as "science" (e.g. simply mathematical calculations rather than use of the 'scientific method'), or were they isolated exceptions to the rule?
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: Qualifying the scientists as "since Christ" seems a bit arbitrary.  Perhaps we could change it to "Most of the early scientists of the modern scientific era who started many of the scientific fields...", although that seems a bit awkward to me.  Or is it currently okay because "who started many of the scientific fields" is sufficient qualification?
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: What do you think?
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:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:35, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
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