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Dawkins apparently believes that genes and "memes" propagate, in effect, themselves - much as pollen "spreads itself around" by employing bees. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 22:08, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
Dawkins apparently believes that genes and "memes" propagate, in effect, themselves - much as pollen "spreads itself around" by employing bees. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 22:08, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
:Sorry I didn't see this sooner, but I think that memes, even though they they have no real substance, have caught the public imagination enough that they warrant their own article. I recommend reversion. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:34, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
:Sorry I didn't see this sooner, but I think that memes, even though they they have no real substance, have caught the public imagination enough that they warrant their own article. I recommend reversion. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:34, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
::I'm glad to see this article has been redirected to Richard Dawkins for now. The concept may have become popular in some quarters, mostly on the Internet, but it is barely known off the Internet and its usage seems more popular among postmodernists, atheists/"skeptic"s and politically correct types than anyone else. It's basically a postmodernist idea rooted in Dawkins' atheism and in many ways a culture war tool used by the other side in the culture war, even though many who use it on the Internet don't realize it. The implication of the "meme" concept is there is no wrong or right, there are no absolute moral values, values are merely cultural ideas that constantly change, combine and separate from each other, and behave like genes as they are culturally transmitted from one person to another. The spread of Christian beliefs if viewed as a "meme" becomes a way of denying any higher power (the Holy Spirit) behind that spread, because "memes" are just ideas that act on their own and spread like viruses. If there is a separate article on memes, my two cents worth is it should cite to some socially conservative criticism of the idea and make clear its atheistic origins, and its popularity among postmodernists and politically correct leftists (as their latest variation on claiming western values are just "social constructs" - now they're "memes", which has the same implication.) [[User:Parrothead|Parrothead]] 08:41, 23 August 2008 (EDT)