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Talk:Essay:Rules of Chivalry for Students (view source)
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We have separate do's and dont's for boys and girls because of their inherent differences. If you want to argue about whether such differences exist (or are socially conditioned), start a debate page - don't make ideological edits. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:33, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
We have separate do's and dont's for boys and girls because of their inherent differences. If you want to argue about whether such differences exist (or are socially conditioned), start a debate page - don't make ideological edits. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:33, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
:How was it an ideological edit? It was an edit related to chivalry. Wouldn't you agree that a boy bragging about beating a girl is decidedly unchivalrous? I have certainly encountered this sort of bragging, and do consider it unchivalrous, for the very reason that there is a difference in strength and aptitude, which is why I believe it should be acknowledged as a rule of chivalry. The reason that ''most'' boys would not lower themselves to this kind of bragging is precisely because they consider it unchivalrous. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 09:40, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
:How was it an ideological edit? It was an edit related to chivalry. Wouldn't you agree that a boy bragging about beating a girl is decidedly unchivalrous? I have certainly encountered this sort of bragging, and do consider it unchivalrous, for the very reason that there is a difference in strength and aptitude, which is why I believe it should be acknowledged as a rule of chivalry. The reason that ''most'' boys would not lower themselves to this kind of bragging is precisely because they consider it unchivalrous. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 09:40, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
::Ed, that is also a sexist view point. Boys are not "better" than women, you know. and boys *do* brag, and girls brag. neither should be encouraged to brag. But I am beginning to find that several of you do not have Christian Equality in mind, but rather like stating that women are an inferior being. Not one place in the Bible will you find it stated that women are more likely to be braggarts then men. No where in the Bible does Jesus, or Paul, or even Timothy suggest that women shouldn't be proud of their educational accomplishments. Being a good Christian woman is about putting your family first in a melinia where the entire world wants you to put your career first. (again, why I have issues with Palin, serious ones). Being a good Chrsitian woman means knowing your husband is the ultimate arbitrator if you and he disagree about something - but it does not mean you should not express your opinion nor does it mean he should not listen and does not have to respect you. Being a good Christian woman means finding love at the core of what you do, and putting aside petty things we *all* as humans are tempted to do. but in no way, anywhere in our Bible does it suggest that women are more likely to be petty, nor that men must somehow "handle" women, or that men should be treated with kid gloves and not embarrassed in class. That is just reinforcing the idea that women are not as capable as men in navigating this world. We use different emotional paths, and put value in other places, but we are just as valuable and important as men. Your comments are hateful to women, I'm sorry to say, by belittling them and turning us into mere toys and not strong, loving, compassionate, intelligent beings on our own.Michelle. Proud mother, Proud Wife, Proud educator, Proud student and scholar (in that order). --[[User:MHayes|MHayes]] 12:49, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
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