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: Sorry, but there are several more cases with the ball in play. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 18:01, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

: Sorry, but there are several more cases with the ball in play. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 18:01, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

::Can you please give me any example of when a player is allowed to use his hands while the ball is in play?  And also, if you want to remove or rework that phrase, fine.  But why do you revert the entire change to add back in the redundant passages? [[User:NateE|NateE]]^{[[User talk:NateE| Let Us Communicate]]} 12:52, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

::Can you please give me any example of when a player is allowed to use his hands while the ball is in play?  And also, if you want to remove or rework that phrase, fine.  But why do you revert the entire change to add back in the redundant passages? [[User:NateE|NateE]]^{[[User talk:NateE| Let Us Communicate]]} 12:52, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

::: Those "redundant passages" make more clear the problem of hands. With the clock runing any player can touch the ball with hands in several cases like: corners, penalties, side throws (saque de banda), goal kick, etc. (Sorry, I am not familiar with the correct name in English.)  It has to be clair that non intentional touch is also permited. That Does not appear in your edits. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 14:01, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

::: Those "redundant passages" make more clear the problem of hands. With the clock runing any player can touch the ball with hands in several cases like: corners, penalties, side throws (saque de banda), goal kick, etc. (Sorry, I am not familiar with the correct name in English.)  It has to be clair that non intentional touch is also permitted. That Does not appear in your edits. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 14:01, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

::::The clock running and the ball in play are two different things altogether.  During a corner, or a throw or any of the other examples you've noted, the ball is not in play.  If you and I were on opposite teams, and I got a throw in, you can't make a play on the ball until it leaves my hands.  That's what I mean by in play. [[User:NateE|NateE]]^{[[User talk:NateE| Let Us Communicate]]} 14:15, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

::::The clock running and the ball in play are two different things altogether.  During a corner, or a throw or any of the other examples you've noted, the ball is not in play.  If you and I were on opposite teams, and I got a throw in, you can't make a play on the ball until it leaves my hands.  That's what I mean by in play. [[User:NateE|NateE]]^{[[User talk:NateE| Let Us Communicate]]} 14:15, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

::::: I see your point and agree with it. Now you have to say the same thing in the article; It was you who start talking about "ball in play"; before it was more general; please make clear both cases.  OK?  

::::: I see your point and agree with it. Now you have to say the same thing in the article; It was you who start talking about "ball in play"; before it was more general; please make clear both cases.  OK? Also: ''It has to be clear that non intentional touch is also permitted.''

--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 16:06, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 16:06, 17 September 2008 (EDT)