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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:53, 30 October 2008 (EDT)
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:53, 30 October 2008 (EDT)
: Those laws that you listed all have a basis from before Christianity... at the very least, Judaism had it covered hundreds of years before Christianity started, but that wouldn't prove my point anyway, so I'll skip that one. I think that relative morality IS the basis for all morality, including religious. Though it's true that it's a personal opinion, and that there will always be a few who believe that their desire comes before anything for anybody else, including their lives, most people aren't naturally murderers until religion steps in to show them otherwise. Hammurabi's Code from 1760 BC includes laws against theft, murder, incest and rape (well... rape of virgin wives, at least). Religion has very often been the documentation of moral codes, but not the source of them unless you want to argue that all of the ancient laws governing polytheistic societies were given by their gods. [[User:Mikek|Mikek]] 08:52, 31 October 2008 (EDT)