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Talk:Essay:Rules of Chivalry for Students (view source)
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::::::And more to the point, my problems with the essay are twofold; firstly, they are oddly and needlessly specific. '''"Be appreciative when a girl makes biscuits for the entire class"'''. So, you shouldn't be appreciative when a boy does it? Or when they make Victoria Sponge? Or when they only buy biscuits (not bake them) for the class? Or when they only do it for one person? Or how about when they invite them to a birthday party? "Surely, "Be appreciative when somebody does something for you" would be more general. My second problem is the horrible gender conformity that it seems to advocate. Apparently, girls must have their parents permission to date a boy. Fine, a little archaic, but we'll run with it. But nowhere does it say the same for boys. The conclusion has to be drawn that for boys it doesn't matter. Why? Same goes for the one about biscuits; it appears not in the girls' section. Do boys not cook? Everybody has to eat. I'm hardly Jamie Oliver, but I know how to stop myself starving, short of MacDonald's every day. I could go on... so I will. The one about "staring at attractive girls"; apparently girls can stare at attractive boys. "Do not attempt to embarras a boy." But apparently it's okay the other way around. [[User:KarlJaeger|KarlJaeger]] 12:00, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
::::::And more to the point, my problems with the essay are twofold; firstly, they are oddly and needlessly specific. '''"Be appreciative when a girl makes biscuits for the entire class"'''. So, you shouldn't be appreciative when a boy does it? Or when they make Victoria Sponge? Or when they only buy biscuits (not bake them) for the class? Or when they only do it for one person? Or how about when they invite them to a birthday party? "Surely, "Be appreciative when somebody does something for you" would be more general. My second problem is the horrible gender conformity that it seems to advocate. Apparently, girls must have their parents permission to date a boy. Fine, a little archaic, but we'll run with it. But nowhere does it say the same for boys. The conclusion has to be drawn that for boys it doesn't matter. Why? Same goes for the one about biscuits; it appears not in the girls' section. Do boys not cook? Everybody has to eat. I'm hardly Jamie Oliver, but I know how to stop myself starving, short of MacDonald's every day. I could go on... so I will. The one about "staring at attractive girls"; apparently girls can stare at attractive boys. "Do not attempt to embarras a boy." But apparently it's okay the other way around. [[User:KarlJaeger|KarlJaeger]] 12:00, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
== Suggested change ==
Previous commenters have already offered their opinions on these suggestions. I couldn't help agreeing with those who wonder why the gender distinction is drawn when all of these points could apply equally well to boys and girls. Here, then, is a prospective alternate version of this article
===Everybody===
When you see someone carrying something heavy, offer to help them carry it.
Speak in a respectful manner in front of people.
Be appreciative when someone bakes cookies for the entire class.
Compliment people (appropriately).
Refrain from staring, commenting or whistling at anyone.
Open doors for people.
If on a date with someone, behave with respect and decorum.
Offer to purchase tickets or meals for friends, and develop a work ethic to provide money for that.
Put your superior social skills to good use by welcoming others.
Do not attempt to embarrass another person, as in trying to beat them in arm-wrestling or bragging that you did better on a test.
When someone does help you, as in carrying something or opening a door, thank them.
Avoid gossip.
Dress modestly, not provocatively or suggestively.
Avoid profanity.
Only agree to date those of whom your parents have approved.
--[[User:TommyAtkins|TommyAtkins]] 10:14, 1 June 2009 (EDT)