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::::::::The policy of the US Government is not an opinion, it's a policy.  The opinion of private citizens that opposes the official US Government policy of advocating human rights and democracy abroad is an opinion.   

::::::::The policy of the US Government is not an opinion, it's a policy.  The opinion of private citizens that opposes the official US Government policy of advocating human rights and democracy abroad is an opinion.   

:::::::::Two issues are with this: First, you do believe the claims of the policy makers about their aims. Second, you do believe that the policy is suited to achieve the aim. Lets take the "Defense of Marriage Act" by Clinton as an example.  

:::::::::Two issues are with this: First, you do believe the claims of the policy makers about their aims. Second, you do believe that the policy is suited to achieve the aim. Lets take the "Defense of Marriage Act" by Clinton as an example.  

::::::::*First, you may or not believe that Clinton wants to defend the marriage.  

:::::::::*First, you may or not believe that Clinton wants to defend the marriage.  

::::::::*Second even if you do believe that Clinton wants to defend the marriage,  you might think that Clinton's "Defense of Marriage Act" fails to do so.  

:::::::::*Second even if you do believe that Clinton wants to defend the marriage,  you might think that Clinton's "Defense of Marriage Act" fails to do so.  

::::::::*And third, you might think that ''defending marriage'' is none of the states business.  

:::::::::*And third, you might think that ''defending marriage'' is none of the states business.  

::::::::*And finally, you might think that marriage should be abolished as an old fashioned institute, rather than defended.

:::::::::*And finally, you might think that marriage should be abolished as an old fashioned institute, rather than defended.

::::::::*In the same spirit you have people who just don't believe Bush, when he says he does it for human rights.

:::::::::In the same spirit you have:

::::::::*There are people who say that they believe his intentions but that that his foreign policy is not achieving his aim.  

:::::::::*People who just don't believe Bush, when he says he does it for human rights.

::::::::*Then there are people that claim that the US should not use the military to advance human rights and democracy.  

:::::::::*There are people who say that they believe his intentions but that that his foreign policy is not achieving his aim.  

::::::::*And finally you have people who reject human rights and democracy.  

:::::::::*Then there are people that claim that the US should not use the military to advance human rights and democracy.  

::::::::And what you do is, you lump everybody together in the last group, even though it is really just a minority of those who oppose Bush's foreign policy. Just like it was just a minority of those who opposed Clinton Defense of Marriage act, who opposed marriage. [[User:Order]] 27 March 13:45 (AEST)  

:::::::::*And finally you have people who reject human rights and democracy.  

:::::::::And what you do is, you lump everybody together in the last group, even though it is really just a minority of those who oppose Bush's foreign policy. Just like it was just a minority of those who opposed Clinton Defense of Marriage act, who opposed marriage. [[User:Order]] 27 March 13:45 (AEST)  

::::::::Not to get sidetracked, but this discussion is similiar to athiesm.  For example, I may hold the opinion that I do not beleive in stop signs, and therefore efforts by others to impose thier morality on me by erecting stop signs does not apply to me, because they can not force me to accept thier law and/or opinion.  So watch out when I'm behind the wheel, cause nobody can legislate morality and impose thier value systems on me by forcing me to obey stop signs.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 23:05, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

::::::::Not to get sidetracked, but this discussion is similiar to athiesm.  For example, I may hold the opinion that I do not beleive in stop signs, and therefore efforts by others to impose thier morality on me by erecting stop signs does not apply to me, because they can not force me to accept thier law and/or opinion.  So watch out when I'm behind the wheel, cause nobody can legislate morality and impose thier value systems on me by forcing me to obey stop signs.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 23:05, 26 March 2007 (EDT)