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::It is less about trying to reconcile it with relativity as it is to basic astrophysics.  More than that, if in fact the speculated method of formation is false, the resulting fallout would be far more reaching than simply overthrowing relativity.  It would cast doubt on much of modern physics (which obviously are done with relativity in mind) but even many other possible interpretations of space and time, such as the pre-relativity Eddington Paradigm.  This is not so much a counter example to relativity but an unknown in physics as a whole, and as more information is gained about the W13 Magnetar, if the above speculated method of formation is found to be false, we will see a revolution of physics surrounding its study.  I don't think it should be removed as a counter example, but perhaps clarified to show that it does not fit the traditional method of magnetar formation, and that other hypothesis have been unproven, and that it could have far-reaching effects, not just relativity.[[User:Vikten|Vikten]] 18:48, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
 
::It is less about trying to reconcile it with relativity as it is to basic astrophysics.  More than that, if in fact the speculated method of formation is false, the resulting fallout would be far more reaching than simply overthrowing relativity.  It would cast doubt on much of modern physics (which obviously are done with relativity in mind) but even many other possible interpretations of space and time, such as the pre-relativity Eddington Paradigm.  This is not so much a counter example to relativity but an unknown in physics as a whole, and as more information is gained about the W13 Magnetar, if the above speculated method of formation is found to be false, we will see a revolution of physics surrounding its study.  I don't think it should be removed as a counter example, but perhaps clarified to show that it does not fit the traditional method of magnetar formation, and that other hypothesis have been unproven, and that it could have far-reaching effects, not just relativity.[[User:Vikten|Vikten]] 18:48, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
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:::The basic problem posed by #12 is that Relativity predicts a [[black hole]] but there is none.  Classical physics does not predict a black hole.
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:::But that is beside the point.  The issue is whether Relativity is true or not, regardless of other theories.  It's difficult to find the correct theory as long as people cling to an incorrect one.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:54, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
    
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