Difference between revisions of "Talk:Convergent evolution"

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It currently says "In evolutionary biology, convergent evolution is the process by which two organisms or taxonomic groups have a character in common due to independently adapting to a similar environment or niche, not by homology." but then mentions "morphology between bats and birds" Now, while flight is a convergent characteristic between the two (as they did not share a flying common ancestor), their flight limbs are homologous (both forelimbs in the vertebrate body plan)... insect wings are analogous to birds and bats; while they both do the same thing (enable flight by flapping) they are an entirely different structure.  So... this should probably be cleaned up. -- [[User:Limulus|Limulus]] 21:59, 9 February 2011 (EST)
 
It currently says "In evolutionary biology, convergent evolution is the process by which two organisms or taxonomic groups have a character in common due to independently adapting to a similar environment or niche, not by homology." but then mentions "morphology between bats and birds" Now, while flight is a convergent characteristic between the two (as they did not share a flying common ancestor), their flight limbs are homologous (both forelimbs in the vertebrate body plan)... insect wings are analogous to birds and bats; while they both do the same thing (enable flight by flapping) they are an entirely different structure.  So... this should probably be cleaned up. -- [[User:Limulus|Limulus]] 21:59, 9 February 2011 (EST)
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: There is a very nice quote on Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homology_%28biology%29#Homology_of_structures] that explains what I'm getting at: "The wings of pterosaurs (1), bats (2) and birds (3) are analogous as wings, but homologous as forearms." -- [[User:Limulus|Limulus]] 22:04, 9 February 2011 (EST)

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A start

This used to redirect to homology which is about the opposite of convergent evolution which seemed strange to me. Anyway, its only a start —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Igor nz (talk) May 2007

Confusing

the process by which two organisms or taxonomic groups share a character

How do organisms share a character via a process? I don't get it. --Ed Poor Talk 09:37, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Is it clearer now? Philip J. Rayment 09:44, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Convergence vs Homology

It currently says "In evolutionary biology, convergent evolution is the process by which two organisms or taxonomic groups have a character in common due to independently adapting to a similar environment or niche, not by homology." but then mentions "morphology between bats and birds" Now, while flight is a convergent characteristic between the two (as they did not share a flying common ancestor), their flight limbs are homologous (both forelimbs in the vertebrate body plan)... insect wings are analogous to birds and bats; while they both do the same thing (enable flight by flapping) they are an entirely different structure. So... this should probably be cleaned up. -- Limulus 21:59, 9 February 2011 (EST)

There is a very nice quote on Wikipedia [1] that explains what I'm getting at: "The wings of pterosaurs (1), bats (2) and birds (3) are analogous as wings, but homologous as forearms." -- Limulus 22:04, 9 February 2011 (EST)