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::I do not see how indicating precisely what it would take to refute the theory is an [[argument from ignorance]]. Please explain. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:18, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
 
::I do not see how indicating precisely what it would take to refute the theory is an [[argument from ignorance]]. Please explain. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:18, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
 
:::I don't quite understand why Mr. Poor's edit summary was "to DMorris" unless he took the use of the word "also" as an indicator of me agreeing with Celigans, but I just struck out also to clear up any confusion. All I did was rightfully criticize atheism. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 21:11, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
 
:::I don't quite understand why Mr. Poor's edit summary was "to DMorris" unless he took the use of the word "also" as an indicator of me agreeing with Celigans, but I just struck out also to clear up any confusion. All I did was rightfully criticize atheism. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 21:11, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
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:::The problem I have with this reference is that I don't see how showing that systems exhibiting irreducible complexity can arise spontaneously by purely material processes would refute ID. It might strengthen the case for evolution, but it would in no way rule out intelligent design. Therefore I don't see how it could be considered a test. Starting the article with quite a bold statement (that intelligent design is empirically testable) and backing it up with a weak reference doesn't set a good tone for the article as a whole. --[[User:JayFrancis|JayFrancis]] 21:58, 19 July 2011 (EDT)