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I question the categorization of these works into fiction and non-fiction works, for a few reasons, perhaps inappropriately phrased as questions. 1) Are we labeling them as such based on the categories the publishers assign them? 2) If so, should we not also consider that these classifications are incorrect? For example, Zinn's work is considered by most reputable historians --and even many less than reputable ones-- as primarily a work of fiction. This criticism stems from his highly flawed approach to historical research that displays numerous examples of sampling error. Is this something we should consider in this article? [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 23:24, 22 September 2011 (EDT) | I question the categorization of these works into fiction and non-fiction works, for a few reasons, perhaps inappropriately phrased as questions. 1) Are we labeling them as such based on the categories the publishers assign them? 2) If so, should we not also consider that these classifications are incorrect? For example, Zinn's work is considered by most reputable historians --and even many less than reputable ones-- as primarily a work of fiction. This criticism stems from his highly flawed approach to historical research that displays numerous examples of sampling error. Is this something we should consider in this article? [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 23:24, 22 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | :I think it's a useful distinction, so I added "published as" before the category titles, hopefully this is an acceptable compromise to you. --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 23:31, 22 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
== ''The Good Earth'' == | == ''The Good Earth'' == | ||
Although classifying the book as liberal may be questionable to some, I listed it for similar reasoning to that of ''The Dispossessed''. Having studied the book several times and researched 20th century China for several reports, the book has clear ties to early Communist movements in China, as well as other portions of Asia. This merits inclusion on the list, in my eyes. Does anyone have any objections? [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 23:29, 22 September 2011 (EDT) | Although classifying the book as liberal may be questionable to some, I listed it for similar reasoning to that of ''The Dispossessed''. Having studied the book several times and researched 20th century China for several reports, the book has clear ties to early Communist movements in China, as well as other portions of Asia. This merits inclusion on the list, in my eyes. Does anyone have any objections? [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 23:29, 22 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
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Origin of species?
Darwin was wrong, but not about everything. Newton was wrong about a few things as well. Darwin didn't set out to destroy God, he waited for 20 years to publish because he didn't want to upset the religious community, and even now that we know more than Darwin possibly could have many of his contributions are still of great importance. --DrDean 23:20, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
Fictional vs. Non-fictional
I question the categorization of these works into fiction and non-fiction works, for a few reasons, perhaps inappropriately phrased as questions. 1) Are we labeling them as such based on the categories the publishers assign them? 2) If so, should we not also consider that these classifications are incorrect? For example, Zinn's work is considered by most reputable historians --and even many less than reputable ones-- as primarily a work of fiction. This criticism stems from his highly flawed approach to historical research that displays numerous examples of sampling error. Is this something we should consider in this article? Kevin Davis Talk 23:24, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
- I think it's a useful distinction, so I added "published as" before the category titles, hopefully this is an acceptable compromise to you. --DrDean 23:31, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
The Good Earth
Although classifying the book as liberal may be questionable to some, I listed it for similar reasoning to that of The Dispossessed. Having studied the book several times and researched 20th century China for several reports, the book has clear ties to early Communist movements in China, as well as other portions of Asia. This merits inclusion on the list, in my eyes. Does anyone have any objections? Kevin Davis Talk 23:29, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
