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*You do understand, Jtl, I am not at your personal call?  Forgive me, life sometimes intervenes.  I will re-state for you, I think the quote stands on its own, enough to provide an opening, a wide one, big enough to preclude anyone saying he believed in Evolution, and a bigger opening to say he was a Creationist, or maybe even a ID person. I question why you are so intent to ram your ideas through, contrary to what Andy and I have said.......--~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 16:08, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
 
*You do understand, Jtl, I am not at your personal call?  Forgive me, life sometimes intervenes.  I will re-state for you, I think the quote stands on its own, enough to provide an opening, a wide one, big enough to preclude anyone saying he believed in Evolution, and a bigger opening to say he was a Creationist, or maybe even a ID person. I question why you are so intent to ram your ideas through, contrary to what Andy and I have said.......--~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 16:08, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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:: It, it would be a great help, if you paid attention here, and responded to questions.  Restating doesn't answer the question.  What part of the quote makes you think he's talking about anything other than evolution-of-molecules?  Alternately, do you actually believe that Darwinian evolution includes evolution of molecules?  Those seem like simple questions to me; the second one is even a yes/no.  Can I have answers, pretty pretty please? --[[User:Jtl|Jtl]] 16:44, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
    
:: Do you have any indication that he did not believe in biological evolution?  He only mentions molecules in the quote.  Do you have any work that shows he believed in Creation as specified in the Bible?  If not, then almost every single biography should be labeled as a Creationist at which point it becomes meaningless.  I would be happy to add 150+ Category:Creationist tags to every single one of the biographies that is not a person who is an atheist.  The level of evidence for adding such a tag should be more than just saying "creation" or "a theory of evolution cannot be applied to <nowiki>{something not biological}</nowiki>".  Lacking this, it is devoid of any educational value. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 16:17, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:: Do you have any indication that he did not believe in biological evolution?  He only mentions molecules in the quote.  Do you have any work that shows he believed in Creation as specified in the Bible?  If not, then almost every single biography should be labeled as a Creationist at which point it becomes meaningless.  I would be happy to add 150+ Category:Creationist tags to every single one of the biographies that is not a person who is an atheist.  The level of evidence for adding such a tag should be more than just saying "creation" or "a theory of evolution cannot be applied to <nowiki>{something not biological}</nowiki>".  Lacking this, it is devoid of any educational value. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 16:17, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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