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:::I personally feel that we should not have any limit on talk. Even if a user does spend 99% of his/her time talking, and proposing changes, they are still getting more done to the project than someone who spend's their time blocking, linkspamming, etc. Furthermore, we should not be in a position where we are even debating whether or not a person can speak. As [[Voltaire]] said:

:::I personally feel that we should not have any limit on talk. Even if a user does spend 99% of his/her time talking, and proposing changes, they are still getting more done to the project than someone who spend's their time blocking, linkspamming, etc. Furthermore, we should not be in a position where we are even debating whether or not a person can speak. As [[Voltaire]] said:

{{cquote|I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

::::Personally I feel this way too, but the site does have a specific purpose of conservatism, and I see nothing wrong with that. It's Andy's site and if he wants to ban users for liberal arguments on talk page discussions that's his call. I recognize moderators like JamesWilson ban others for liberal beliefs on evolution or other topics for saying anything they consider objectionable. I personally disagree strongly with evolution, but for me it's a fairness issue. If we're going to allow banning for comments supportive of evolution by new users, per JamesWilson's recent blocks, then we should at least make sure the guidelines clearly state what the rules are, so people don't get banned without knowing what they did wrong. And it definitely shouldn't allow banning of people who state such opinions in debates - and I have seen users blocked for their opinions in debates before - which is obviously wrong. --[[User:JZambrano|Joshua Zambrano]] 15:41, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

}}[[User:Brenden|brenden]] 15:31, 4 September 2012 (EDT)