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:*John 3:11: ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι How does this fit into your statement that ''the Greek style had not developed that improvement in writing style, to the point of using awkward constructs to avoid any first-person reference.''?

:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:08, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

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:(edit conflict) A translation approach of "same word, same translation" in every context would result in departures from original meaning. "Get" is not translated today into the same word every time in French (which lacks the same word). The translation depends on the real meaning of the word in English, which varies among "understand", "fetch", "receive", etc.

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:"men" doesn't work for "κόσμον" in [[#3:16|John 3:16]], because it excludes most of the world's population. Translating "κόσμον" as "the inhabitants of earth" is better, but is verbose and clumsy, and raises the false implication non-human inhabitants. "Us" conveys the original meaning best among the alternatives. As to your analogy, the expectation would be that God would love all His creation, but individuals as subjects would not carry that same expectation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:13, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

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