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Revision as of 07:11, January 11, 2013
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:::::Thanks for your kind words. Now, we must understand, the term "backdoor spending" was authored into U.S. law in the Budget Act of 1974. It's [http://books.google.com/books?id=c0FthsyM-KsC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=401%28c%29+backdoor+authority&source=bl&ots=SBacPZXnIZ&sig=fVTXVsl7H7faYnXyv5eunmyUCao&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xa_vUO-wG4iWqgGmuYHQBA&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=401%28c%29%20backdoor%20authority&f=false also known as 401(c) authority]. Here's the actual [http://books.google.com/books?id=0UQTLOF5uSEC&pg=PA398&lpg=PA398&dq=401%28c%29+backdoor+authority&source=bl&ots=Rr0tcSbeso&sig=mpZJEMKoWLDSjgOti1nwifTeT-o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xa_vUO-wG4iWqgGmuYHQBA&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=401%28c%29%20backdoor%20authority&f=false text of the law] (I think). These are big issues in the United States, and [http://books.google.com/books?id=LTELAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=revolving+fund%2Bbackdoor&source=bl&ots=0e-yJ1QkrH&sig=W8j2GyzUDKvvvuv_20N84XdAAcs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KKzvUOD6FpGbrQHU6YGICg&ved=0CGgQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=backdoor%20permanent%20appropriations%20spending%20authority&f=false numerous attempts to reform] it since its inception in 1932 as the [[Reconstruction Finance Corporation]] have always, it seems, made the matter worse.
:::::Thanks for your kind words. Now, we must understand, the term "backdoor spending" was authored into U.S. law in the Budget Act of 1974. It's [http://books.google.com/books?id=c0FthsyM-KsC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=401%28c%29+backdoor+authority&source=bl&ots=SBacPZXnIZ&sig=fVTXVsl7H7faYnXyv5eunmyUCao&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xa_vUO-wG4iWqgGmuYHQBA&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=401%28c%29%20backdoor%20authority&f=false also known as 401(c) authority]. Here's the actual [http://books.google.com/books?id=0UQTLOF5uSEC&pg=PA398&lpg=PA398&dq=401%28c%29+backdoor+authority&source=bl&ots=Rr0tcSbeso&sig=mpZJEMKoWLDSjgOti1nwifTeT-o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xa_vUO-wG4iWqgGmuYHQBA&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=401%28c%29%20backdoor%20authority&f=false text of the law] (I think). These are big issues in the United States, and [http://books.google.com/books?id=LTELAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=revolving+fund%2Bbackdoor&source=bl&ots=0e-yJ1QkrH&sig=W8j2GyzUDKvvvuv_20N84XdAAcs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KKzvUOD6FpGbrQHU6YGICg&ved=0CGgQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=backdoor%20permanent%20appropriations%20spending%20authority&f=false numerous attempts to reform] it since its inception in 1932 as the [[Reconstruction Finance Corporation]] have always, it seems, made the matter worse.
:::::We'll soon be having this discussion again with upcoming debt ceiling debate about March 1. Clarifying some of these deliberately ambiguous terms (like [[Borrowing authority]], also known as [http://www.gao.gov/assets/130/120223.pdf "authority to spend debt receipts"], pg.46), would be an extraordinary helpful first step for millions of interested parties and readers. [[User:OscarO|OscarO]] 01:39, 11 January 2013 (EST)
:::::We'll soon be having this discussion again with upcoming debt ceiling debate about March 1. Clarifying some of these deliberately ambiguous terms (like [[Borrowing authority]], also known as [http://www.gao.gov/assets/130/120223.pdf "authority to spend debt receipts"], pg.46), would be an extraordinary helpful first step for millions of interested parties and readers. [[User:OscarO|OscarO]] 01:39, 11 January 2013 (EST)
The GAO Budget Glossary, which you just cited, has "Backdoor authority/Backdoor spending" defined on page 18:
<blockquote>A collective designation of authority provided in laws other than appropriation acts to obligate the government to make payments. *** (For a statutorily defined equivalent term, See Spending Authority....)</blockquote>
I agree that 2 U.S.C. Sec 651 stopped authorization bills from creating new "backdoors" around the appropriation process. 651(c) sets forth large categories of "non-appropriated funds" that are still outside the budget process, including Social Security and Medicare. I still have problems with the phrase "backdoor" because there is nothing inherently wrong with establishing government projects that are supported by user fees, public-private partnerships, donations, etc. Let us just call these "spending authority" and use the pre-existing 2008 article to define them. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 02:11, 11 January 2013 (EST)