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| | : I agree that the reference to JPEGs is not necessary. As for the second point, it's clear that TerryH ''has'' deleted something (presumably an IP address), although I don't understand how it came to be there. The "log in" link shows that he was not logged in, but when I look at the site, in both IE and Firefox, both on Windows, no IP shows up there. So I don't know why it did for TerryH. Given that it did, however, I don't have a problem with that particular disclaimer point. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:16, 6 September 2008 (EDT) | | : I agree that the reference to JPEGs is not necessary. As for the second point, it's clear that TerryH ''has'' deleted something (presumably an IP address), although I don't understand how it came to be there. The "log in" link shows that he was not logged in, but when I look at the site, in both IE and Firefox, both on Windows, no IP shows up there. So I don't know why it did for TerryH. Given that it did, however, I don't have a problem with that particular disclaimer point. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:16, 6 September 2008 (EDT) |
| | ::Oh, ''now'' I see it. I can explain that one, actually. The IP shows up only under certain conditions: Go to the site (or any other wiki you're not logged in to, from what I know) and click on the "Log in" link (or any link that leads to the "Login required to edit" screen, such as a redlink). From that moment on, until you close the tab/window, the IP will be displayed there. As long as you're a nice lurker and never try to log in or hit redlinks, you won't see your IP up there. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 23:29, 6 September 2008 (EDT) | | ::Oh, ''now'' I see it. I can explain that one, actually. The IP shows up only under certain conditions: Go to the site (or any other wiki you're not logged in to, from what I know) and click on the "Log in" link (or any link that leads to the "Login required to edit" screen, such as a redlink). From that moment on, until you close the tab/window, the IP will be displayed there. As long as you're a nice lurker and never try to log in or hit redlinks, you won't see your IP up there. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 23:29, 6 September 2008 (EDT) |
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| − | What the hell is wrong with a Euro-centric point of view?
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| − | The Europeans brought culture, intelligence, enlightenment, freedom, created the modern world that we live in today, and that is somehow conducive of a racist point of view, even though that IS how pretty much history happened!
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| − | That is not racism! Euro-centric point of view is not a bad one to have, especially considering that the Muslim immigrants are subverting that point of view over in Europe and being of a viewpoint of preserving original European culture makes you a "racist?" I think not because the real racists are the white guilt people that hate everything GOOD that our founders gave to the rest of the uncivilized world in the rest of the world and gave the world enlightenment, progress, and real humanity. Is this really "racism?" You fail to mention anything about the white ARYAN viewpoint of Metapedia and use the liberal terminology of "Euro-centric" point of view of preserving your culture as being "racism" when in fact, they are about preserving WHITE ARYAN RACIAL PURITY! Please do not use far-left biased terminology.
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| − | And NO I am NOT a White Supremacist racist bigot! I am just stating facts! I do not self-hating garbage that lumps in people who think that European culture is really great and really benefited humanity and its progress over the last few centuries as being a sign of being like these Nazi bastards (Am I allowed to use bad language here?) on Metapedia.
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| − | Europeans brought so much goodness to the rest of the world that you are gonna say that anyone with a Euro-centric point of view is a white-supremacist racist? That is the same guilt of liberal guilt propaganda that most mainstream conservatives criticize liberals over on a daily basis. I am highly proud of European culture, does that make me a white supremacist racist?
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| − | I do not think so, NOT WHEN I USE IT AS A RHETORICAL TOOL TO HATE PEOPLE OF OTHER RACES AND ETHNICITIES AND PROCLAIM THAT THEY ARE INFERIOR, while violating the principles of EQUALITY AND ALL THAT PREVALENT from these EUROPEAN ideals and all th
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| − | I'll just be a self-hating liberal idiot who hates white people all the time and lumps in racially-tolerant people proud of their European cultural heritage in with Neo-Nazi bigots like Metapedia! Thank you, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER!
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| − | This is the same kind of garbage I'd expect the kind like Morris Dees to propagate.
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| − | I'm saying that I could have a pro-European view of culture and be proud of all Europeans have given the rest of the world and all its wonderful civilizing of the rest of the world and all who live in it, AND NOT BE AN ARYAN PSEUDOSCIENCE-PROMOTING ARYAN RACIAL BLOOD PROMOTING IDIOT LIKE THEY ARE!
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| − | Having a EURO-CENTRIC POINT OF VIEW, is NOT NECESSARILY RACISM!
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| − | Please be more specific when referring to Euro-centric deep love of European culture and all its grandure and glory and civilization IN WITH NEO-NAZIS AND NOT LUMP US IN WITH THEM! THANK YOU!
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| − | Being proud of European culture IS NOT racism, it is only racism when it is used to belittle and racially insult people of other races and other cultures! Only then! I do not care what the halfwits at Wikipedia say about that to smear you as "white supremacist" when I am anything but, and that is HOW HISTORY HAPPENED and no amount of self-hating far-left revisionist BS can change that, that Europeans brought some much civilization and greatness to the rest of the world and we got the modern culture that we live in today, thanks to them and preserving that culture, AS OPPOSED TO THE RACIAL BS, makes you a racist!
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| − | I am NOT in favor of Aryan ideology, but kick me off here if you think that I am a racist for preserving the greatness and achievements our ancestors laid down for the rest of the world and gave us the world we live in today, compared to fools who wrap themselves up with this nonsense to promote a racist cause of theirs, behind this propaganda!
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| − | Hitler WAS REVERED as a national hero for many years in Germany for bringing economic miracles and a sense of renewed purpose for Germany, but does that make me an Aryan Nazi for pointing out in fact, he was and Germans revered him as such, and Hitler is HATED as a person in Germany, precisely because of the Holocaust and his racist Nazi pseudoscientific racist Aryan eugenics, bad Aryan diluted by bad blood, Aryan unhealthy Aryan, diluted by racially inferior bad blood of other cultures and pseudoscientific BS of Adolf Hitler.
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| − | Does that make me a "NAZI?" for pointing that out? No, it does not. You are being vague and unspecific about the whole Euro-centric crap and you sound like ones of those self-hating far-left liberal people that hates America and European Western culture for just being Western and civilized and bringing greatness to the rest of the world, and hating its values because of the RACISM of these people, rather that the values that they promoted to make the world better as we know it and WE MUST CONDEMN THE RACISM OF METAPEDIA and stuff like it, but we must remember WHO WE REALLY ARE AND THAT PRESERVING EUROPEAN CULTURE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND ITS HUMANITARIAN CIVILIZING ACHIEVEMENTS IS NOT RACISM!
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| − | GEERT WILDERS HAS THIS EXACT SAME POINT OF VIEW I DO, and is HE A WHITE SUPREMACIST ARYAN NEO-NAZI LIKE METAPEDIA? I THINK NOT!
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| − | This is not racism to love European culture or be Euro-centric and preserve European culture, compared to stupid fools like Metapedia that need a cause to promote to make their racist ideals seem reputable and intelligent and seem like a holy crusade.
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| − | No one has discredited European-centric ideals or anything like that, JUST ARYAN NAZI-centric racial racist policies like them. I do not see that pro-European view as being a racist one, just that it is racist when it is used to belittle and mock other cultures with an Aryan bad viewpoint and racially discriminate against them, only then, DO I DISAGREE WITH A PRO-EUROPEAN VIEW, wrapped up in the stupid propaganda of sites like Metapedia and other white supremacist hate sites, I only disagree with it, if Euro-centric and pro-European views are used with pseudoscientific and incorrect BS Aryan Nazi beliefs like Metapedia and others.
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| − | White pride is just a propaganda slogan peddled out by these fools to make themselves seem seem like preserving white culture and preserving white racial purity, with pseudoscientific Aryan beliefs and all the other crap these fools believe in, to make themselves seem like the defenders of the white race, when in fact they are violent, ignorant, and stupid moronic little idiots who are the most narrow-minded band of street thugs that are neurotic and paranoid and have little influence, compared to those PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT LOVE EUROPEAN CULTURE AND ALL ITS GREATNESS AND BEING LUMPED IN WITH NAZI IDIOTS LIKE THEM IS NOT ONLY STUPID, IT IS ''WRONG'''''Bold text'''!
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| − | I am in favor of preserving the white culture that brought civilization to the world, not necessarily white racism or ARYAN NAZI BS like Metapedia or the racial discrimination of Metapedia and the KKK embodying like that stuff! I am not in favor of preserving the white pure racial blood of our culture or whites above others, just merely against the white supremacist racism that treats different races like total garbage and shouldn't rise to their position just because they are not white, or because they have to suffer because they are not white, or any of that. I do not believe in any of that bull and in fact, I tolerate people of other races and NOT THE BS of the KKK and all that crap!
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| − | It is not racist, nor racism to deeply love European culture and all its greatness!
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| − | It is not racism to love European culture and identity. It is racism to use it to discriminate against minority groups and people like that and then promote Aryan Nazi pseudoscienftic hate garbage like the kind Metapedia is.
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| − | I AM NOT A RACIST AND IT IS NOT RACIST, NOR BIGOTED TO DEEPLY LOVE AND ADMIRE THE EUROPEAN CULTURE OR HAVE A EURO-CENTRIC WESTERN POINT OF VIEW, LIKE THIS SITE SO HAS, yet this site has a pro-Western view BECAUSE WE ARE WESTERNERS AND SEE THE WORLD THAT WAY AND WE DO NOT NEED FAR-LEFT SELF-HATING SCUM TO TELL US OTHERWISE, DO WE?
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| − | I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY OF THAT WHITE PRIDE CRAP SLOGANS THESE IDIOTS PEDDLE, EITHER!
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| − | Accuse me of racism or all that, but THAT IS HOW IT IS!
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| − | We cannot change it and we must embrace it. I am NOT in favor of the Aryan Nazi ideology or that of a narrow bigot like Adolf Hitler, who you guys proclaim as being of the left, the self-hating garbage peddled as a Euro-centric view by this site is the same kind of narrow bigotry I expect from liberals that deeply hate everything Western, done by white people and achieved by white people because they perceive WRONGLY that it came from racist and bigoted white folks, so it is no longer relevant and must be destroyed for their self-hating garbage that they peddle and because it is done by dead white males and how they use the racism of the past as an excuse to dismantle and destroy the Western European-loving culture that we love so much and brought greatness to the world!
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