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::Since Guevara's killing in 1967 it has been debated among Intelligence analysts and policymakers the merits of killing a terrorist leader only to have him idolized in death as a maryr to a cause.  After 1975, by Executive Order, such assassinations now are explicitly forbidden without Presidential authorization.  In Israel, matters are handled somewhat differently, in that these sorts of decisions are Cabinet decisions, and not the responsibility of one man like under US law (see ''By Way of Deception'' by Victor Ostrovsky [http://www.amazon.com/Way-Deception-Victor-Ostrovsky/dp/0971759502]).  Arafat, for example, while condemned to death ''in absentia'' by the Israeli cabinet, nonetheless a death warant was never issued by the Prime Minister for his arrest and/or execution, and this is because of pressure from the US State Department not to make a Che Guevara type martyr out of him.  Similiarly with bin Laden.  Killing him serves no purpose now.  It does not undo the events of 9/11 or bring 3000 back from the grave.  It probably would elevate him in death to something larger than he ever was in life.  So he can be made more of an example as a coward, living in hiding in caves, a hunted man for the rest of his life, which serves more to deter any future bin Laden wanna be's than making a martyr out of him.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:39, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::Since Guevara's killing in 1967 it has been debated among Intelligence analysts and policymakers the merits of killing a terrorist leader only to have him idolized in death as a maryr to a cause.  After 1975, by Executive Order, such assassinations now are explicitly forbidden without Presidential authorization.  In Israel, matters are handled somewhat differently, in that these sorts of decisions are Cabinet decisions, and not the responsibility of one man like under US law (see ''By Way of Deception'' by Victor Ostrovsky [http://www.amazon.com/Way-Deception-Victor-Ostrovsky/dp/0971759502]).  Arafat, for example, while condemned to death ''in absentia'' by the Israeli cabinet, nonetheless a death warant was never issued by the Prime Minister for his arrest and/or execution, and this is because of pressure from the US State Department not to make a Che Guevara type martyr out of him.  Similiarly with bin Laden.  Killing him serves no purpose now.  It does not undo the events of 9/11 or bring 3000 back from the grave.  It probably would elevate him in death to something larger than he ever was in life.  So he can be made more of an example as a coward, living in hiding in caves, a hunted man for the rest of his life, which serves more to deter any future bin Laden wanna be's than making a martyr out of him.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:39, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
 
So is that your position as to why the US hasn't caught him yet?  Then why did they catch Saddam?  Was that a "mistake," because your policy seems to suggest that dangers to society are better alive than dead no matter what.-'''<font color="#007FFF">Ames</font><font color="#FF0000">G</font>'''<sub>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!]</sub> 15:44, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
 
So is that your position as to why the US hasn't caught him yet?  Then why did they catch Saddam?  Was that a "mistake," because your policy seems to suggest that dangers to society are better alive than dead no matter what.-'''<font color="#007FFF">Ames</font><font color="#FF0000">G</font>'''<sub>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!]</sub> 15:44, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
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:Excellent parallel; Saddam too, like bin Ladan, was made an example of, living in a hole as a hunted man.  And when he was caught, it wasn't the US that executed him.  There is no doubt that if bin Laden is caught, he will be tried to, But killing him out in the jungle for revenge purposes, or of fear that he might lead a mass movement again, is not a likely scenario.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:09, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
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:Excellent parallel; Saddam too, like bin Ladan, was made an example of, living in a hole as a hunted man.  And when he was caught, it wasn't the US that executed him.  There is no doubt that if bin Laden is caught, he will be tried to. But killing him out in the jungle for revenge purposes, or of fear that he might lead a mass movement again, is not a likely scenario.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:09, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
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