| | ::::::Andy, I concur with your opinion re knowledge of the angels, although the references to them in Hebrews 1 and 2 are quotations from the Septuagint, and from the Gospel of John. However, only in the Gospel of John (17:3) does Our Lord directly refer to himself (once) in the third person by name, but in Hebrews all references to Christ are in the third person, and this is not Jesus' normal pattern of speech in the Gospels. This is also not his style in the letters he dictated to John in the Book of Revelation (1:10–3:22). Also, the arrest of Timothy the companion of Paul, and the greeting to the Hebrews from those saints (Christians) who came from Italy, in Hebrews 13:23-24, would have taken place long after Jesus ascended into heaven, long after the day of Pentecost, and after the conversion of Paul on the road to Damascus. With great respect and sincerity, I would like to know what then is your opinion and explanation of the means by which Jesus himself did write Hebrews? Was it by hand, physically, in which case he would have descended to earth to write it (which would be a secret second coming, and not according to Acts 1:11), or was it by inspiration from heaven through another writer to whom he dictated the letter, or was it written in heaven and then physically delivered by a heavenly messenger or delivered by himself and presented in a vision to a Christian messenger who then made several copies of the letter he was shown and then delivered them to the groups of Christian Hebrews who were being persecuted at the time it was written (Hebrews 12:3-17)? John said that Jesus told him to write to the Churches, but Hebrews has no such statement. These are the only possibilities supportive of your position that occur to me, but the text of Hebrews indicates none of them. (Is there another?) <br/> With sincere respect, ''Pax vobis''.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] 01:52, 29 December 2014 (EST) | | ::::::Andy, I concur with your opinion re knowledge of the angels, although the references to them in Hebrews 1 and 2 are quotations from the Septuagint, and from the Gospel of John. However, only in the Gospel of John (17:3) does Our Lord directly refer to himself (once) in the third person by name, but in Hebrews all references to Christ are in the third person, and this is not Jesus' normal pattern of speech in the Gospels. This is also not his style in the letters he dictated to John in the Book of Revelation (1:10–3:22). Also, the arrest of Timothy the companion of Paul, and the greeting to the Hebrews from those saints (Christians) who came from Italy, in Hebrews 13:23-24, would have taken place long after Jesus ascended into heaven, long after the day of Pentecost, and after the conversion of Paul on the road to Damascus. With great respect and sincerity, I would like to know what then is your opinion and explanation of the means by which Jesus himself did write Hebrews? Was it by hand, physically, in which case he would have descended to earth to write it (which would be a secret second coming, and not according to Acts 1:11), or was it by inspiration from heaven through another writer to whom he dictated the letter, or was it written in heaven and then physically delivered by a heavenly messenger or delivered by himself and presented in a vision to a Christian messenger who then made several copies of the letter he was shown and then delivered them to the groups of Christian Hebrews who were being persecuted at the time it was written (Hebrews 12:3-17)? John said that Jesus told him to write to the Churches, but Hebrews has no such statement. These are the only possibilities supportive of your position that occur to me, but the text of Hebrews indicates none of them. (Is there another?) <br/> With sincere respect, ''Pax vobis''.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] 01:52, 29 December 2014 (EST) |