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Researchers from NAPAC (National Association for People Abused in Childhood) have found the minutes of a meeting CHE held in Manchester in 1983 (dated from references to Tom O’Carroll being gaoled for two years). It records that one sub-group, the black and ethnic minorities caucus, submitted a letter objecting to the prominence of PIE members who attended the conference and were selling their magazine ''Minor Problems'', because this could attract bad publicity in the press. “They caused great distress to a number of survivors of child sexual abuse who were present,” runs the letter and it goes on to ask, not for them to be banned but merely for them to show “greater restraint” at future events.  In reply, Leo Adamson, on behalf of CHE, said that PIE was only selling magazines like anyone else at the meeting, and that CHE “should be supporting groups on the sexual fringe”. A demand for a vote of support for the letter was withdrawn when it was agreed to discuss the matter further at an AGM the next month. At the AGM, CHE rejected the idea of banning pedophiles. Instead it passed a motion proposed by Martin Burgess and seconded by Geraint Jones of Aberystwyth Gay and Lesbian Society, that “pedophiles are an oppressed minority” , alluding to the jail term served by Tom O’Carroll, acknowledging that there were “a large number of peds around, many very active in the lesbian and gay movement”, (which was and is very true) lamenting that peds were often driven out of the UK to more “liberated” countries such as the Netherlands; arguing  that children want sex with peds, and finally quoting from Peter Tatchell’s chapter in “Betrayal of Youth” where he claims that the arguments against “intergenerational sex” are the same as those against interracial marriage.

Researchers from NAPAC (National Association for People Abused in Childhood) have found the minutes of a meeting CHE held in Manchester in 1983 (dated from references to Tom O’Carroll being gaoled for two years). It records that one sub-group, the black and ethnic minorities caucus, submitted a letter objecting to the prominence of PIE members who attended the conference and were selling their magazine ''Minor Problems'', because this could attract bad publicity in the press. “They caused great distress to a number of survivors of child sexual abuse who were present,” runs the letter and it goes on to ask, not for them to be banned but merely for them to show “greater restraint” at future events.  In reply, Leo Adamson, on behalf of CHE, said that PIE was only selling magazines like anyone else at the meeting, and that CHE “should be supporting groups on the sexual fringe”. A demand for a vote of support for the letter was withdrawn when it was agreed to discuss the matter further at an AGM the next month. At the AGM, CHE rejected the idea of banning pedophiles. Instead it passed a motion proposed by Martin Burgess and seconded by Geraint Jones of Aberystwyth Gay and Lesbian Society, that “pedophiles are an oppressed minority” , alluding to the jail term served by Tom O’Carroll, acknowledging that there were “a large number of peds around, many very active in the lesbian and gay movement”, (which was and is very true) lamenting that peds were often driven out of the UK to more “liberated” countries such as the Netherlands; arguing  that children want sex with peds, and finally quoting from Peter Tatchell’s chapter in “Betrayal of Youth” where he claims that the arguments against “intergenerational sex” are the same as those against interracial marriage.

On Friday September 30th 1983 ''Capital Gay'' the homosexual activist newspaper reported that CHE had “stepped up its support for PIE”.[image available] CHE had stopped using Monomark because Monomark had refused to deliver the PIE magazine Minor Problems, and CHE had written in protest to Midland Bank for closing PIE’s account. CHE urged other queer groups to do the same. Its current leaders were David Green and Nick Billingha

On Friday September 30th 1983 ''Capital Gay'' the homosexual activist newspaper reported that CHE had “stepped up its support for PIE”.[image available] CHE had stopped using Monomark because Monomark had refused to deliver the PIE magazine Minor Problems, and CHE had written in protest to Midland Bank for closing PIE’s account. CHE urged other queer groups to do the same. Its current leaders were David Green and Nick Billingham.

In 2009, CHE called for the NCCL to recommend a time limit on reporting child sex abuse. This idea which would free a lot of pedophiles from fear of prosecution finally got NCCL to disaffiliate from CHE.

In 2009, CHE called for the NCCL to recommend a time limit on reporting child sex abuse. This idea which would free a lot of pedophiles from fear of prosecution finally got NCCL to disaffiliate from CHE.

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On at least two occasions the CHE conference passed motions in PIE's favour. [[Matthew Parris]] of [[Stonewall UK]] has claimed that “Most gay people were horrified by any conflation of homosexuality and a sexual interest in children.” The documentary evidence from the minutes proves that he is being disingenuous. In the 1990s the heterosexual Peter Hain, who was Honorary Vice-President of CHE, spoke out against PIE and the result was a breach. Hain resigned.

[[Matthew Parris]] of [[Stonewall UK]] has claimed that “Most gay people were horrified by any conflation of homosexuality and a sexual interest in children.” The documentary evidence from the minutes proves that he is wrong. The opposite is true. In the 1990s the heterosexual Peter Hain, later a Labour MP, who was Honorary Vice-President of CHE, spoke out against PIE and the result was a breach. Hain resigned.

==North Wales Child Abuse Scandal==

==North Wales Child Abuse Scandal==