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Harmony of the Gospel (Conservative Version) longer form Chapters 43-49 (view source)
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:*[https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-intercession-of-the-saints The Intercession of the Saints (catholic.com)] ''Citations from the early Church Fathers'' A.D. 100 to 500.
:*[https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-intercession-of-the-saints The Intercession of the Saints (catholic.com)] ''Citations from the early Church Fathers'' A.D. 100 to 500.
:Compare 2 Peter 1:15 "And I will strive after my departure you may be able to recall these things." (the word for "that" is not in the Greek text, "strive ''that''" or "''that'' you may be able"—see [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_peter/1-15.htm interlinear text of 2 Peter 1:15] and [http://biblehub.com/multi/2_peter/1-15.htm multiple versions of 2 Peter 1:15])<br>2 Maccabees 15:12-16 testifies to the doctrine that "dead" saints pray for the people: (c. 152 B.C.) "And Onias spoke, saying, 'This is a man who loves the brethren and prays much for the people and the holy city, [[Jeremiah (prophet)|Jeremiah]] the prophet of God.' " 2 Maccabees 15:14.<br> Also 2 Maccabees 12:42-45 testifies to the practice of intercessory prayer for those dead who had been believers but had sinned, that they might be delivered from their sin.<br>Second Maccabees and six other books and parts of books of the Catholic and Orthodox Bible have been rejected because of this and many other doctrines found in them, rejected by the Protestant Reformation as promoting superstition and paganism in opposition to the pure and simple truth of the Gospel of Christ. See [[Apocrypha]] and [[Syncretism]], also [[Great Apostasy]].
:Compare 2 Peter 1:15 "And I will strive after my departure you may be able to recall these things." (the word for "that" is not in the Greek text, "strive ''that''" or "''that'' you may be able"—see [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_peter/1-15.htm interlinear text of 2 Peter 1:15] and [http://biblehub.com/multi/2_peter/1-15.htm multiple versions of 2 Peter 1:15])<br>2 Maccabees 15:12-16 testifies to the doctrine that "dead" saints pray for the people: (c. 152 B.C.) "And Onias spoke, saying, 'This is a man who loves the brethren and prays much for the people and the holy city, [[Jeremiah (prophet)|Jeremiah]] the prophet of God.' " 2 Maccabees 15:14.<br> Also 2 Maccabees 12:42-45 testifies to the practice of intercessory prayer for those dead who had been believers but had sinned, that they might be delivered from their sin.<br>Second Maccabees and six other books and parts of books of the Catholic and Orthodox Bible have been rejected because of this and many other doctrines found in them, which have been rejected by the Protestant Reformation as promoting superstition and paganism in opposition to the pure and simple truth of the Gospel of Christ. See [[Apocrypha]] and [[Syncretism]], also [[Great Apostasy]].
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:1 Timothy 2:10; 3:1; 5:10, 25; 6:18; Titus 1:16; 2:7, 14; 3:1, 8, 14, in this chapter (Forty-four).
:1 Timothy 2:10; 3:1; 5:10, 25; 6:18; Titus 1:16; 2:7, 14; 3:1, 8, 14, in this chapter (Forty-four).
:Paul emphasizes the requirement of good works, as consistent with his doctrine of works in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A6-10&version=RSVCE Romans 2:6-10] and [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A10&version=RSVCE Ephesians 2:10], and his warning to not fall away from the faith by sin in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A20-22&version=RSVCE Romans 11:20-22] and [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+10%3A8-12&version=RSVCE 1 Corinthians 10:8-12]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+6%3A3-10&version=RSVCE Galatians 6:3-10].<br>If it is not possible to fall away no warning would be given. It is also not possible to fall away from what one never had.
:Paul emphasizes the requirement of good works, as consistent with his doctrine of works in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A6-10&version=RSVCE Romans 2:6-10] and [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A10&version=RSVCE Ephesians 2:10], and his warning to not fall away from the faith by sin in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A20-22&version=RSVCE Romans 11:20-22] and [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+10%3A8-12&version=RSVCE 1 Corinthians 10:8-12]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+6%3A3-10&version=RSVCE Galatians 6:3-10].<br>If it is not possible to fall away no warning would be given. It is also not possible to fall away from what one never had.
:It is important to note that [[Arminianism]] is not the same as Catholicism regarding free will and the forgiveness of sins. The difference between Arminianism and Catholicism on the possibility of repentance during life is that Arminius says that after any of the elect have fallen away some cannot repent, that it becomes impossible, by the decree of God, while they live, as punishment (Hebrews 6:4-6; Romans 9:18); but Catholicism says that all are capable of repentance and that none is excluded from the grace of God's persistent call to repentance while they live, that God never withdraws his grace of the enabling power to repent, and that only those who resist his grace to death are doomed (James 5:19-20; 1 Peter 2:25; 1 John 1:9-10; 5:14-17).
:*[https://wesley.nnu.edu/arminianism/the-works-of-james-arminius/ The Works of James Arminius: Volume 1: Public Disputations: Disputation 17: On Repentance (2) (wesley.nnu.edu)] —"
:*[https://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a10.htm Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 982 "There is no offense, however serious, that the Church cannot forgive."
:*[https://evangelicalarminians.org/recent-definitive-book-on-arminius-theology-jacob-arminius-theologian-of-grace/ Recent, Definitive Book on Arminius' Theology: Jacob Arminius: Theologian of Grace (evangelicalarminians.org)] —"''Arminius is clear that some who fall away can be brought back, while others '''cannot''' be restored.''" (<small>''boldface emphasis added''</small>)
:*[https://sites.google.com/site/osasarminian/arminius Arminius (sites.google.com)] ''God never chose individuals to elect to salvation, but rather He chose to elect the members of the believing Church to salvation.'' (those who remain "in Christ" by faith through good works).
:*[https://learntheology.com/jacob-arminius-vs-john-calvin-on-election-unto-salvation.html Jacob Arminius vs John Calvin on Election unto Salvation (learntheology.com)]
:*[https://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/arminius.html Who was Arminius? by Robert Godfrey (mountainretreatorg.net)]
:*[https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Arminianism/arminianism.htm Arminianism, Compiled and edited by David J. Stewart] ''An exposé of both Arminianism and Calvinism, by a Calvinist''.
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