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Let's get clear on what a "choice" is, Flippin
::Are you serious? Every gay person I know has known either from childhood that they were "different" or discovered it on their own. Is trapped really the precise word? I know it is if you believe it is a choice, but I have never, not once, in my experience with gay people, met someone whose chosen it. That is the weirdest thing to me that people believe that. Just a thought here, but should we also have a page dedicated to [[straight civil unions]] and the [[straight agenda]]?[[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 12:56, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
::Are you serious? Every gay person I know has known either from childhood that they were "different" or discovered it on their own. Is trapped really the precise word? I know it is if you believe it is a choice, but I have never, not once, in my experience with gay people, met someone whose chosen it. That is the weirdest thing to me that people believe that. Just a thought here, but should we also have a page dedicated to [[straight civil unions]] and the [[straight agenda]]?[[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 12:56, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
:::Your response seems a bit muddled, specifically regarding the relationship between ''trapped'' and ''choice''. As I understand these words, when one is trapped, one's choices are limited, curtailed, stymied, and even eliminated. A prisoner in a jail has no choice about his daily routine. He can't, for example, take a stroll outside the grounds.
:::Perhaps you have confused me with other Christians who regard homosexual behavior as entirely a matter of choice. Going to rock concerts instead of opera and ballet, is a choice. Majoring in economics or biology or civil engineering (or not going to college at all), is a choice. Voting Democratic or Republican is a choice.
:::Feeling revulsion or fear or indifference or attraction upon seeing a pretty girl, on the other hand, does not appear to be a matter of choice. Asking her out on a date, or shooting her with an automatic rifle, however, is most certainly a choice. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 10:26, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
== Robledo's version. ==
== Robledo's version. ==