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:The statement that you have a problem with is a matter of logic and definitions -- I don't think we need to cite a Ph.D. historian to cite that it's not immigration if we have a clear definition of immigration (which we do) and a situation where people remain inside territory controlled by the same empire. Using logic, there's nothing wrong with the sentence.
:The statement that you have a problem with is a matter of logic and definitions -- I don't think we need to cite a Ph.D. historian to cite that it's not immigration if we have a clear definition of immigration (which we do) and a situation where people remain inside territory controlled by the same empire. Using logic, there's nothing wrong with the sentence.
:I am a man of my word, so I gave you a very short block (1-day blocks are rarely given on CP) since you continued reverting me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
:I am a man of my word, so I gave you a very short block (1-day blocks are rarely given on CP) since you continued reverting me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
::Thanks [[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] for the brief block, though I don't understand why you did this because ''together'' we improved the lead, and it felt more like a heated debate than an edit-war? However, perhaps I was over-eager?
::Re the early settlers not being immigrants. I don't think I was clear enough. The main problem is not the idea that the early colonists weren't immigrants but that the opening wording of this section seem, confusingly, to suggest that America isn't a country of immigrants. Presumably this isn't a view that Conservapedia can support.
:::The idea of distinguishing the earliest settlers from later immigrants is interesting (if illogical), but sounds like a personal opinion than something accepted by any historians–but I'm certainly not an expert in this field!
::I suggest the following revision (but note the lack of sources here):
:::The fact that the United States of America is a country of immigrants, is often used as an argument in favor of illegal immigration by liberals.
:::Most of the immigrants to America in the [[Thirteen colonies|British colonial era]] were English, Scots and Protestant Irish. A large number of German immigrants came to Pennsylvania and New York. To this day they are called "Pennsylvania Dutch" but they were Germans, and came for religious freedom and economic opportunity. Dutch did come and settle in New Amsterdam (now New York), which was part of the Dutch Empire. Black slaves were involuntary immigrants to all the colonies, especially the tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland, and the rice plantations of South Carolina. The American Revolution cut off movement from 1775 to 1783. When it resumed, about 80,000 American Loyalists left the U.S. to migrate to Canada, or return to Britain. Migration was light before 1815, because of wars in Europe. The import or export of slaves was made.
::What do you think? [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 18:10, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
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