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→Hominids vs apes: Creationists deny that humans descended from ancient apes
::If that were the intent of the quote, then I would agree with you, but the part that mentions "ancient apes" is from the writer of the article, not the person who says "we have fossil evidence for evolution, it's a fact." Yet, the article says that the former is presented in context of the latter, which isn't the case. It's not necessary to quote the writer of the article here because it's not a first-person piece of evidence, and moreover the writer is using the term incorrectly. Also, I'm wondering why we have this reference at all, since it's referring the the 1999 Kansas school board removing evolution from the standards. Since 1999 that policy has been reversed, and a new controversial policy was put in place and reversed. The reference is basically defunct from the question of current events, and if you want to lend some scientific credibility to the article, then a journal paper or textbook would be far more appropriate. I'm removing the quotation marks and changing ape back to hominid since it is the correct term. [[User:JohnSmith|JohnSmith]] 16:01, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
::If that were the intent of the quote, then I would agree with you, but the part that mentions "ancient apes" is from the writer of the article, not the person who says "we have fossil evidence for evolution, it's a fact." Yet, the article says that the former is presented in context of the latter, which isn't the case. It's not necessary to quote the writer of the article here because it's not a first-person piece of evidence, and moreover the writer is using the term incorrectly. Also, I'm wondering why we have this reference at all, since it's referring the the 1999 Kansas school board removing evolution from the standards. Since 1999 that policy has been reversed, and a new controversial policy was put in place and reversed. The reference is basically defunct from the question of current events, and if you want to lend some scientific credibility to the article, then a journal paper or textbook would be far more appropriate. I'm removing the quotation marks and changing ape back to hominid since it is the correct term. [[User:JohnSmith|JohnSmith]] 16:01, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
::: You took a statement that is correct, clear, unambiguous, and grounded in a neutral source, and replaced it with one that is inaccurate and confusing. Creationists deny that humans descended from ancient apes, but not that they descended from ancient hominids. The ancient apes belonged to a different species from modern humans; the same is not necessarily true about hominids. It appears that you subscribe to the idea that the word hominid is just another word for an ape, but if that is true, then why make the change? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 17:21, 12 May 2007 (EDT)