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::::::There's a lot wrong here but I just want to focus because your answer is very indirect. You say Progressivism has many shades, ok. Are any of those shades "good"? Or are all of those shades bad? [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 20:03, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
::::::There's a lot wrong here but I just want to focus because your answer is very indirect. You say Progressivism has many shades, ok. Are any of those shades "good"? Or are all of those shades bad? [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 20:03, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::Progressivism was founded as a reform to the [[Spoils system]], patronage , and corruption. It was hi-jacked by socialists to usher in the [[welfare state]]. It not only failed to eliminate patronage and corruption, it created a system in which it is impossible to vote out corruption. The Spoils system at least had that advantage. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 21:10, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::Progressivism was founded as a reform to the [[Spoils system]], patronage , and corruption. It was hi-jacked by socialists to usher in the [[welfare state]]. It not only failed to eliminate patronage and corruption, it created a system in which it is impossible to vote out corruption. The Spoils system at least had that advantage. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 21:10, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::[https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-security/trump-orders-substantial-cut-in-national-security-council-staff-bloomberg-idUSKBN1WK02X To the Victors go the Spoils (dated today, October 4, 2019).] Trump has had it with these Progressive civil service deep state coup efforts against him and the Constitutionally elected people's choice. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 21:28, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
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