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I just found out that sodomy laws didn't appear to exist in European countries such as England, Germany, France until after 1500. There were obviously Christians before 1500 so to call sodomy laws conservative in terms of Western Civilization would be a stretch.  My guess is that the Reformation was a big influence in terms of countries eventually passing sodomy laws. And the spread of theologically conservative Protestantism does tend to cause countries/societies to be less tolerant of homosexuality. I know the Russian Orthodox church influenced Russia to be anti-homosexuality in its laws, but I don't know what the other Eastern Orthodox countries are like.  

I just found out that sodomy laws didn't appear to exist in European countries such as England, Germany, France until after 1500. There were obviously Christians before 1500 so to call sodomy laws conservative in terms of Western Civilization would be a stretch.  My guess is that the Reformation was a big influence in terms of countries eventually passing sodomy laws. And the spread of theologically conservative Protestantism does tend to cause countries/societies to be less tolerant of homosexuality. I know the Russian Orthodox church influenced Russia to be anti-homosexuality in its laws, but I don't know what the other Eastern Orthodox countries are like.  

On the whole, since the most truly conservative portion of mankind's history was the garden of Eden before the fall, I would list the decriminalization of homosexuality as a failure![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:21, 27 November 2019 (EST)

On the whole, since the most truly conservative portion of mankind's history was the garden of Eden before the fall, I would list the decriminalization of homosexuality as a failure! There was no homosexuality before the fall! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:21, 27 November 2019 (EST)

:I do think that social conservatives did a respectable job in fighting abortion pre-Trump after Roe vs. Wade was passed, but Trump appointing another conservative to SCOTUS could put them over the finish line on the abortion issue.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:24, 27 November 2019 (EST)

:I do think that social conservatives did a respectable job in fighting abortion pre-Trump after Roe vs. Wade was passed, but Trump appointing another conservative to SCOTUS could put them over the finish line on the abortion issue.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:24, 27 November 2019 (EST)

::I think the biggest reason why social conservatives lost so many battles was the advent of the baby boomers. You had a lot of prosperous young people by historical standards and many of them abandoned God. And so the sexual revolution, cultural Marxism, etc. came into American society. But again, conservatives are having more babies post the advent of the pill and so eventually conservatives could win the culture war. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:28, 27 November 2019 (EST)

::I think the biggest reason why social conservatives lost so many battles was the advent of the baby boomers. You had a lot of prosperous young people by historical standards and many of them abandoned God. And so the sexual revolution, cultural Marxism, etc. came into American society. But again, conservatives are having more babies post the advent of the pill and so eventually conservatives could win the culture war. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:28, 27 November 2019 (EST)