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| | ::::::Jesus simply said what he said. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:30, 5 August 2020 (EDT) | | ::::::Jesus simply said what he said. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:30, 5 August 2020 (EDT) |
| | :::::(ec) You even get a twofer in this argument: ''Cephas'' also means ''head''. Is Peter the chief Capstone? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:31, 5 August 2020 (EDT) | | :::::(ec) You even get a twofer in this argument: ''Cephas'' also means ''head''. Is Peter the chief Capstone? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:31, 5 August 2020 (EDT) |
| − | ::::::Jesus simply meant what he said according to the Greek. "''I say to you, you are a rock, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.''" I can't change it. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:37, 5 August 2020 (EDT) | + | ::::::Jesus simply meant what he said according to the Greek. "''I say to you, you are a rock, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.''" I can't change it. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:37, 5 August 2020 (EDT)<br>Even the KJV text of John 1:42 says, "'''And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.'''" Not even the KJV says it means "head": it says "which is by interpretation, A stone." According to the interlinear text of John 1:42 this word "Cephas" is from the Aramaic "kepa" which means "a rock". Check out Strong's number G4074 for "stone" at John 1:42. Whether big or small it still means "a rock". --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:51, 5 August 2020 (EDT) |
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| | :::::(ec) Let's go back to the original citation in scripture, Isaiah 28:16: | | :::::(ec) Let's go back to the original citation in scripture, Isaiah 28:16: |
| | :::::{{quotebox|''Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.''}} | | :::::{{quotebox|''Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.''}} |
| | :::::This scripture is repeated numerous times in the Bible by Luke, Peter and Paul. Two questions: (1) Is this unfulfilled prophecy? (2) Are you attempting to lay a foundation other than that which has been laid? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:40, 5 August 2020 (EDT) | | :::::This scripture is repeated numerous times in the Bible by Luke, Peter and Paul. Two questions: (1) Is this unfulfilled prophecy? (2) Are you attempting to lay a foundation other than that which has been laid? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:40, 5 August 2020 (EDT) |