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::The end result will be more encyclopedia articles and debate pages which will be more informative to the public.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:08, 24 July 2020 (EDT)
 
::The end result will be more encyclopedia articles and debate pages which will be more informative to the public.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:08, 24 July 2020 (EDT)
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==Punish China==
 
==Punish China==
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::[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Twitter&diff=prev&oldid=1685327 It's not like it's commie agitprop.] What's the problem with it and why can't it be discussed first? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 18:29, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
 
::[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Twitter&diff=prev&oldid=1685327 It's not like it's commie agitprop.] What's the problem with it and why can't it be discussed first? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 18:29, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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:Trump was NOT permanently banned, and he said so twice.  There's other mistakes, too. He's just repeating a random piece of conservative news, getting it wrong deliberately, responding harshly as a kind of glossy flattery and posting it.  Another person did the same thing in the past few hours.  Total troll. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 18:32, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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::Okay, so he didn't cite a source. But 3 months is kinda harsh. How about we let him out of jail before the election? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 18:44, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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:::I just reduced the block to two days. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]'''''</sup> Friday, 18:51, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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::::You all know what that heaving sound is?  It's me, sitting on the curb in front of my house, sobbing with my face in my hands. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 18:54, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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:::::And why is that? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]'''''</sup> Friday, 18:56, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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::::Despite my best efforts at dropping hints to you guys, the spammer that Karajou blocked got a complete victory at avenging himself upon that administrator by winning your unalloyed support.  Congratulations. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 19:14, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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:::::If you think that User:Punish China is a sock of the juvenile delinquent, then ask RobSmith or Karajou to use check user and make sure. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]'''''</sup> Friday, 19:20, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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::::::Seeing his longer history, maybe not, but evidently that has little meaning—they allowed you to checkuser yourself against certain vandals! [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 00:24, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
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:::::::I am definitely not the juvenile delinquent, I don't even know who is that specific juvenile delinquent, I just didn't know how to source very well, my apologies. Anyways, I meant to use this source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-twitter/twitter-briefly-restricts-trump-campaign-account-republicans-decry-companys-actions-idUSKBN2702C4, but I really need help in it, as I am an intermediate-to-advanced editor, but not an expert editor. Thanks! - [[User:United States]]
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==2020 General Election Early Vote Statistics==
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[https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html Voters have cast a total of 9,737,497 ballots in the reporting states.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:48, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
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==Move discussion==
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I'm going to move the discussion to [[Debate:Belloc, Schumpeter, Adler ''et al'']], a mainspace, cause that ignorant little snot Liberaltears wants to block you for a 90/l0 violation. I told him do not interfere in other people's discussions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:02, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:I'm averring we're in a real national crisis.  Shouldn't we put such rules in abeyance for now in light of that? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 17:06, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::I couldn't agree more. But LT is acting like the Supreme Court handling a Trump lawsuit and moreless says, buzz off. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:09, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:When did Liberal Tears become the managing administrator?  Can we appeal to Andy? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 17:11, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::Wow Vargas, I never knew you are exempt from the rules simply because you are able to come up with lame excuses. For basically the entirety of this year, you just talk and talk nonstop. Need I remind you that nearly everyone else follows 90/10? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:13, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::Now hold on, so you're going to complain to Andy because I point out that you're violating the rules? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:14, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:::90/l0 is the stupidiest thing anyone ever came up with, short of defund the police. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:17, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::::Since when is it particularly stupid to say that at least 10% of one's edits should be solid contributions? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:18, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:::::Since when is it particulalry stupid to say 90/l0 killed any chance of building a CP userbase, especially after l5 years? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:20, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:::::Tell me, what's the difference between Twitter censorship and 90/l0? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:20, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::::::Twitter censorship is based on political ideology. 90/10 has to do with excessive talking/lack of mainspace contributions. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:27, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:::::::Oh, and 90/l0 was not designed to censor political ideology? You need to get a life. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:29, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::::::::We don't need 90/10, we already have anti-[[trolling]] rules which can be applied, technically with appropriate warnings, at 30/70. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:37, March 6, 2023 (EST)
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::All right, I will accept having it moved if you tell us what a good procedure to follow would be if there ''were'' a crisis of national import which needed to be addressed. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 17:21, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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:::That we can address in the debate page mainspace.  Too bad it's another victory for CP censorship - moving a meaningful discussion from its top ten most view pages to some obscure location on the server. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 17:27, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::"Wherefore if a case arise wherein the observance of that law would be hurtful to the general welfare, it should not be observed. For instance, suppose that in a besieged city it be an established law that the gates of the city are to be kept closed, this is good for public welfare as a general rule: but, it were to happen that the enemy are in pursuit of certain citizens, who are defenders of the city, it would be a great loss to the city, if the gates were not opened to them: and so in that case the gates ought to be opened, contrary to the letter of the law, in order to maintain the common weal, which the lawgiver had in view."—Thomas Aquinas
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:If you are weak in a crisis, you are weak indeed. (Proverbs)
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:[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 17:33, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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::I've been in this position dozens of times in CP - in the midst of an intelligent, meaningful discussion, and some third party comes along, shuts it down, blocks participants, and deletes the discussion. They don't want intelligent debate. No one in the hierarchy will listen to my protests. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 18:10, 24 December 2020 (EST)
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==Talk pages==
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Please reread:
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*[[Conservapedia:Editing_article_and_talk_pages]]
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*[[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Civility]]
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Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:03, March 6, 2023 (EST)
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:I can't.  I'm feeling pretty sick. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Monday, 16:50, March 6, 2023 (EST)
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::God bless you. Hopes for a speedy recovery. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:01, March 6, 2023 (EST)
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:I was feeling sick at the prospect of having to read the articles you asked me to read.  My ability to read technical literature waxes and wanes, a good part of the reasons into which I often have no discernment.
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:But this causes the kind of vicious circle, or worse, chaotic system, of which I already spoke, where my solicitude to defend persons under time pressure raises my apprehensions while trying to read the literature you  asked me to, where there's no certainty of my being able to finish it, as well as apprehensions about adjustments I have to make to my schedule should I fail to complete it, where I would have some need to re-read portions of it as well.
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:I will keep trying to build up the mental momentum to read through it, though. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Tuesday, 07:41, March 7, 2023 (EST)
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::For simplicity's sake, here's the subsection on Talk pages [https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Editing_article_and_talk_pages#Talk_pages_and_Archiving] from the first link. That, and the Civility clauses. Undoing an Admin's action is a no-no, too. Basically, Main Page Talk is not a Community Portal for shootin' the breeze about whatever topic comes to mind or trashing other users. There is an appropriate place for everything. Usually, the specific article talk page. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:24, March 7, 2023 (EST)
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== Great to see you again! ==
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Wonderful seeing you again, VargasMilan!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:35, July 19, 2025 (EDT)
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:You too, Andy.  I hope you're doing well. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 23:46, July 19, 2025 (EDT)
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== Thanks for fixing the Scripture verse citation ==
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Thanks for fixing the Scripture verse citation on my user page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:15, October 2, 2025 (EDT)
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:A pleasure.  Also a pleasure to read your works on the faith. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 23:20, October 2, 2025 (EDT)
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