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:If supporting Zionism is a neoconservative trait/talking point, then why was it Trump who finally moved the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and not someone like Bush, who made that a campaign promise in 2000? [https://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/flashback-all-the-times-past-presidents-promised-to-move-us-embassy-to-jerusalem/][https://www.haaretz.com/1.4940914][http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/04/bush.israel.balkans/index.html] There's also McCain acolyte/[[Lincoln Project]] co-founder [[Steve Schmidt]] [https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2018/05/15/schmidt-on-israel-embassy-move-there-is-blood-on-trumps-hands/ having bashed Trump for moving the embassy], plus [[Bill Kristol]] being silent as [https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/12/leading-never-trump-republicans-near-silent-in-defense-of-israel/ as Israel's attacked with rockets]. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!}]]''''' Thursday, 20:56, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

:If supporting Zionism is a neoconservative trait/talking point, then why was it Trump who finally moved the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and not someone like Bush, who made that a campaign promise in 2000? [https://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/flashback-all-the-times-past-presidents-promised-to-move-us-embassy-to-jerusalem/][https://www.haaretz.com/1.4940914][http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/04/bush.israel.balkans/index.html] There's also McCain acolyte/[[Lincoln Project]] co-founder [[Steve Schmidt]] [https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2018/05/15/schmidt-on-israel-embassy-move-there-is-blood-on-trumps-hands/ having bashed Trump for moving the embassy], plus [[Bill Kristol]] being silent as [https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/12/leading-never-trump-republicans-near-silent-in-defense-of-israel/ as Israel's attacked with rockets]. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!}]]''''' Thursday, 20:56, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

True, but I'm talking in terms of things like foreign aid, intervention, etc. I myself am not a "free Palestine" person, I think they are terrible and I do not really hold anything against that Israel and believe they have a right to self-defense, but generally, Zionism is regarded as less of a paleoconservative belief and more of a neoconservative one. I could see the Republican establishment spitting on Israel when they defend themselves against Palestine, but people like Dan Crenshaw and Nikki Haley (both neocons) have fought for Israel and want increased funding to Israel. Also, in regards to Trump moving the embassy to Jersusalem, it should be noted Jared Kushner had a lot to do with it and the aforementioned Nikki Haley strongly backed it while UN ambassador, so it could go both ways there. I personally believe that Jersusalem should be Israel's capital, though it's not really a high priority for me as a conservative. So yes, emphasization of Zionism is a neoconservative trait, and I personally think that is why the GOP establishment has been going crazy over the Israel-Hamas fight when we had the gas shortage a few weeks ago, which was a much more important priority to our country than that. I just find Zionism inconsistent with an "America First" foreign policy approach, which is why I am against it. -[[User:Mr. Nationalist|Mr. Nationalist]] ([[User talk:Mr. Nationalist|talk]]) 21:24, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

True, but I'm talking in terms of things like foreign aid, intervention, etc. I myself am not a "free Palestine" person, I think they are terrible and I do not really hold anything against Israel and believe they have a right to self-defense, but generally, Zionism is regarded as less of a paleoconservative belief and more of a neoconservative one. I could see the Republican establishment spitting on Israel when they defend themselves against Palestine, but people like Dan Crenshaw and Nikki Haley (both neocons) have fought for Israel and want increased funding to Israel. Also, in regards to Trump moving the embassy to Jersusalem, it should be noted Jared Kushner had a lot to do with it and the aforementioned Nikki Haley strongly backed it while UN ambassador, so it could go both ways there. I personally believe that Jersusalem should be Israel's capital, though it's not really a high priority for me as a conservative. So yes, emphasization of Zionism is a neoconservative trait, and I personally think that is why the GOP establishment has been going crazy over the Israel-Hamas fight when we had the gas shortage a few weeks ago, which was a much more important priority to our country than that. I just find Zionism inconsistent with an "America First" foreign policy approach, which is why I am against it. -[[User:Mr. Nationalist|Mr. Nationalist]] ([[User talk:Mr. Nationalist|talk]]) 21:24, June 2, 2021 (EDT)