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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Use your head: if God truly believed that, he would never have sent his only son to bring us back under this thumb, and most certainly would NEVER have formed the Christian church. In fact, he wouldn't even declare himself to be the only true king of humanity either, to such an extent that he tried to tell them NOT to have a human king at all before relenting and letting them have King Saul and later King David (and there's even evidence he specifically intended for that specifically to ENSURE Jesus was born via that lineage to ensure his plan of putting us back under his thumb worked). I know if I were in God's shoes and I actually thought "My kingdom is not of this world", that would be my rationale to just genocide humanity into extinction, saying "hey, humans aren't part of my kingdom anyways, so might as well torch them like termites!" Has it ever occurred to you that Jesus was saying that specifically to bait Pontious Pilate into killing him as per his father's will? Put another way, Matthew 28:19 and Matthew 16:18 would never exist at all if "My kingdom is not of this world." was truly what God wanted. In fact, want to know what WOULD have been the result if Jesus and God truly thought that? Look at [[Jonestown]]. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 18:07, February 1, 2022 (EST)
 
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Use your head: if God truly believed that, he would never have sent his only son to bring us back under this thumb, and most certainly would NEVER have formed the Christian church. In fact, he wouldn't even declare himself to be the only true king of humanity either, to such an extent that he tried to tell them NOT to have a human king at all before relenting and letting them have King Saul and later King David (and there's even evidence he specifically intended for that specifically to ENSURE Jesus was born via that lineage to ensure his plan of putting us back under his thumb worked). I know if I were in God's shoes and I actually thought "My kingdom is not of this world", that would be my rationale to just genocide humanity into extinction, saying "hey, humans aren't part of my kingdom anyways, so might as well torch them like termites!" Has it ever occurred to you that Jesus was saying that specifically to bait Pontious Pilate into killing him as per his father's will? Put another way, Matthew 28:19 and Matthew 16:18 would never exist at all if "My kingdom is not of this world." was truly what God wanted. In fact, want to know what WOULD have been the result if Jesus and God truly thought that? Look at [[Jonestown]]. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 18:07, February 1, 2022 (EST)
 
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::(ec) We've been over this a hundred times. You seem to have Christianity and Islam mixed up; in Islam, the "people of God" win brownie points with God by killing the "enemies of God;" in Christianity, the believer cannot do anything to curry favor with God, other than accept the '''finished''' work of Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 18:11, February 1, 2022 (EST)
 
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::(ec) We've been over this a hundred times. You seem to have Christianity and Islam mixed up; in Islam, the "people of God" win brownie points with God by killing the "enemies of God;" in Christianity, the believer cannot do anything to curry favor with God, other than accept the '''finished''' work of Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 18:11, February 1, 2022 (EST)
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::No, I am NOT mixing up Islam with Christianity (for one thing, Christianity does NOT allow for lying even to advance Christianity, while Islam DOES via Taqiyya). Maybe you haven't noticed, but the Old Testament has God specifically DEMANDING for his followers to slaughter people on his behalf (in fact, ironically, it was King Saul showing mercy to the Malenkites and disobeying God's direct orders to genocide them out of existence that had him fall out of God's favor). And even the New Testament had God specifically stating through Jesus to spread the Gospel, aka, CONQUER the world via the Gospel. He would NOT tell us to spread it if he didn't want us to conquer it, and if anything would have told us to essentially undergo Jonestown since Jesus's work is finished, with absolutely NO followers left over to build ANY religion at all. Now do you get it? [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 19:07, February 1, 2022 (EST)
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::No, I am NOT mixing up Islam with Christianity (for one thing, Christianity does NOT allow for lying even to advance Christianity, while Islam DOES via Taqiyya). Maybe you haven't noticed, but the Old Testament has God specifically DEMANDING for his followers to slaughter people on his behalf (in fact, ironically, it was King Saul showing mercy to the Malenkites and disobeying God's direct orders to genocide them out of existence that had him fall out of God's favor). And even the New Testament had God specifically stating through Jesus to spread the Gospel, aka, CONQUER the world via the Gospel. He would NOT tell us to spread it if he didn't want us to conquer it, and if anything would have told us to essentially undergo Jonestown since Jesus's work is finished, with absolutely NO followers left over to build ANY religion at all. Now do you get it? And let's not forget that the whole concept of [[Fatima]] among other things pokes holes into your claim, which was all ABOUT God ordering us to do tasks to advance Christendom and eliminate his enemies. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 19:07, February 1, 2022 (EST)
    
:::::::::::::::::::::That's crazy, and [[Clinton]]esque. We heard the same insanity in 1998 when the U.S. intervened in [[Kosovo]] cause the Serbs didn't know how to raise their children right at the exact same moment two white gangbangers were shooting up Columbine high school. Let's clean up our universities and public schools first before going on this global jihad you advocate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:35, November 12, 2021 (EST)
 
:::::::::::::::::::::That's crazy, and [[Clinton]]esque. We heard the same insanity in 1998 when the U.S. intervened in [[Kosovo]] cause the Serbs didn't know how to raise their children right at the exact same moment two white gangbangers were shooting up Columbine high school. Let's clean up our universities and public schools first before going on this global jihad you advocate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:35, November 12, 2021 (EST)
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