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→Vladimir Putin is not a social conservative. One the most basic traditional values is not stealing. And Putin is a kleptocrat/thief.
:::This doesn't sound like User:Conservative. I think [[George Soros]] hacked the account. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 20:37, March 24, 2022 (EDT)
:::This doesn't sound like User:Conservative. I think [[George Soros]] hacked the account. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 20:37, March 24, 2022 (EDT)
:::Russia will not sit idly while NATO continues supplying weapons to kill Russian soldiers. The war will spread. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup>`
:::Russia will not sit idly while NATO continues supplying weapons to kill Russian soldiers. The war will spread. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup>`
:::This is not your run-of-the-mill "regional conflicts" of the Cold War and post-Cold War era, as you seem to have the impression. Anytime George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Mitch McConnell are in agreement, ''you'' know ''you'' are in big trouble.
:::Facts: Ukrainian military is being decimated. Facts: only NATO weapons are keeping the war going, and WILL keep an insurgency going once [[Mariupol]] (the Nazi base in Eastern Ukraine) is flattened , the Kherson Oblast, a landbridge to Crimea established, and Donetsk and Luhansk secured, a new line of contact will be established. The Russians traditionally do not give up land the conquer (Easst germany the rare exception, and they now see that as a mistake after NATO lied to them). The Kyiv and Kharkov sieges are diversions to keep the Ukraine military from reinforcing the [[Donbas]] front.
:::While the Russian would like to take [[Odessa]], for no other reason than to arrest the fascists who burnt people alive in [[Odessa Trade Unions House massacre]] during the NATO-backed [[maidan coup]], it seems unrealistic and costly (I predicted months ago that Othe Odessa seaport would remain Ukrainian). Western Ukraine (Lvov and environs), as [[Samuel Huntington]] wrote about in [[Clash of Civilizations]] is long been the seat of Ukrainian fascism and Nazism, and likely will remain so. If NATO wasn't so busy training mercenaries and smuggling weapons into Western Ukraine, yes, the Russians would take the area simply to occupy U.S. DoD biological labs (but that probably a very large factor why NATO is willing to allow so many Ukrainians to get killed in a losing conflict to stop Russians from revealing to the world [[Hunter Biden]], [[Metabiota]] and [Dr. Fauci]]'s work at those labs).
:::In the end, we're looking at a longterm standoff and trade war, similar to post-World War II where no peace treaty ever ended the war.
:::The problem Russians in the Donbas have is similar to [[Poland]]'s - it has no natural boundaries or defenses against the rest of Ukraine. So a line of contact like you have in the mountainous region of northern India and occupied [[Tibet]] will be established, only harder to enforce with more population, divided families and intermarriages on both sides of the line. Unlike East Berlin (which was successfully de-nazified by Russia over 40 years), the Ukrainian Nazis in Kherson Oblast, Ukrainian minorities in the Donbas, and what's left of Mariupol, will be successfully de-nazified, no matter how long it takes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 21:10, March 24, 2022 (EDT)