| | :Sorry for not responding, I'm trying to distance myself from Conservapedia due to a certain sysop who if you ask me is ruining the site with his pro-Putin love, even when evidence is coming to light that he's absolutely NO different from the ChiComs ultimately. Like I said, you're pretty much the only reason I made any edits fairly recently. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:28, June 25, 2022 (EDT) | | :Sorry for not responding, I'm trying to distance myself from Conservapedia due to a certain sysop who if you ask me is ruining the site with his pro-Putin love, even when evidence is coming to light that he's absolutely NO different from the ChiComs ultimately. Like I said, you're pretty much the only reason I made any edits fairly recently. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:28, June 25, 2022 (EDT) |
| | ::Pokey, sorry, we're not going to shoot all communists or hang them from lampposts as you suggest, nor add Putin to your kill list based on your flimsy evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z+]]</sup> 11:13, June 25, 2022 (EDT) | | ::Pokey, sorry, we're not going to shoot all communists or hang them from lampposts as you suggest, nor add Putin to your kill list based on your flimsy evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z+]]</sup> 11:13, June 25, 2022 (EDT) |
| | :::^Case in point regarding why I'm not editing on here much. And if God damns you to hell for refusing to shoot all Communists or hang them from lampposts, or even adding Putin to the list of communist enemies, don't cry to me, I tried to warn you. God, after all, is totalitarian, won't tolerate the very existence of Communists since they disrupt his rule. Besides, those weren't flimsy evidence at all, not when they came from ACTUAL conservative sites and sources. Heck, [[Sebastian Gorka]] is one of those. And even Trump made it very clear early into his term that Putin is bad news, scolded Merkel for becoming his puppet as well. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 15:30, June 25, 2022 (EDT) | | :::^Case in point regarding why I'm not editing on here much. And if God damns you to hell for refusing to shoot all Communists or hang them from lampposts, or even adding Putin to the list of communist enemies, don't cry to me, I tried to warn you. God, after all, is totalitarian, won't tolerate the very existence of Communists since they disrupt his rule. Besides, those weren't flimsy evidence at all, not when they came from ACTUAL conservative sites and sources. Heck, [[Sebastian Gorka]] is one of those. And even Trump made it very clear early into his term that Putin is bad news, scolded Merkel for becoming his puppet as well. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 15:30, June 25, 2022 (EDT) |
| | ::Anyways, if its that argument you sent that I replied to before RobS got all smart-alecky, yes, I saw it. And I still fail to see how The Little Mermaid was all THAT feministic anyways (maybe if you count American Suffragette [the group Susan B. Anthony, a well-known pro-lifer who was against abortion, belonged to] stuff as feminist, I MIGHT possibly see how it could be such, but beyond that, it really isn't feminist enough to qualify as even moderately liberal. Any more than Sleeping Beauty does, and that movie had three female fairies being the closest the film has to actual protagonists, being the ones who direct the plot, even saving the prince when Maleficent abducted him and aided him in defeating her.). Besides, apparently, the film we got, the changes to the story made in it, were actually proposed by Walt Disney himself in his planned take (I think the only significant difference might be the part where Eric rams Ursula with a derelect ship, since that was forced in last minute by Katzenberg to emulate Die Hard), and Walt was a huge conservative last I checked (conservative enough to willingly aid HUAC and fire a guy who tried to prey on a boy at the pool, was even known to be a Goldwater supporter.). At the very least, they were coincidental similarities based on what the Platinum and 2006 audio commentary and bonus featurettes, respectively, claimed. And I also explained a bit on why I'm defensive as well. It's largely because, [[Hunt for Red October]] aside, it's my first movie, and Ariel if anything helped out with my struggles with my autism, alongside my parents. And even IF I were to toy with the idea that they were pushing a liberal agenda, the problem is there was literally NOTHING from the developers of the film that even remotely indicated they were trying to push an agenda when making the film, much less a leftist one (unlike, say, Beauty and the Beast, where Linda Woolverton, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Paige O'Hara, and even Don Hahn to an extent made it repeatedly clear BATB was meant to push the radical feminist agenda, or even Star Wars, where George Lucas and close associates repeatedly made it clear that they were trying to push Vietcong propaganda when making the movie.), so there's literally nothing to suggest there was an ulterior motive behind its creation (and I highly doubt that Walt Disney would have made similar changes to his planned take to The Little Mermaid if it was indeed meant to be leftist in outlook). I've grown extremely sensitive towards any pushing of left-wing agendas, to the extent that all it takes is one development note making clear they were doing such to write it off as liberal, never mind whether it's overt in its intentions. That's even why I ended up disassociating myself from BATB and Star Wars, also Metal Gear to a lesser extent. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 16:23, June 25, 2022 (EDT) | | ::Anyways, if its that argument you sent that I replied to before RobS got all smart-alecky, yes, I saw it. And I still fail to see how The Little Mermaid was all THAT feministic anyways (maybe if you count American Suffragette [the group Susan B. Anthony, a well-known pro-lifer who was against abortion, belonged to] stuff as feminist, I MIGHT possibly see how it could be such, but beyond that, it really isn't feminist enough to qualify as even moderately liberal. Any more than Sleeping Beauty does, and that movie had three female fairies being the closest the film has to actual protagonists, being the ones who direct the plot, even saving the prince when Maleficent abducted him and aided him in defeating her.). Besides, apparently, the film we got, the changes to the story made in it, were actually proposed by Walt Disney himself in his planned take (I think the only significant difference might be the part where Eric rams Ursula with a derelect ship, since that was forced in last minute by Katzenberg to emulate Die Hard), and Walt was a huge conservative last I checked (conservative enough to willingly aid HUAC and fire a guy who tried to prey on a boy at the pool, was even known to be a Goldwater supporter.). At the very least, they were coincidental similarities based on what the Platinum and 2006 audio commentary and bonus featurettes, respectively, claimed. And I also explained a bit on why I'm defensive as well. It's largely because, [[Hunt for Red October]] aside, it's my first movie, and Ariel if anything helped out with my struggles with my autism, alongside my parents. And even IF I were to toy with the idea that they were pushing a liberal agenda, the problem is there was literally NOTHING from the developers of the film that even remotely indicated they were trying to push an agenda when making the film, much less a leftist one (unlike, say, Beauty and the Beast, where Linda Woolverton, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Paige O'Hara, and even Don Hahn to an extent made it repeatedly clear BATB was meant to push the radical feminist agenda, or even Star Wars, where George Lucas and close associates repeatedly made it clear that they were trying to push Vietcong propaganda when making the movie.), so there's literally nothing to suggest there was an ulterior motive behind its creation (and I highly doubt that Walt Disney would have made similar changes to his planned take to The Little Mermaid if it was indeed meant to be leftist in outlook). I've grown extremely sensitive towards any pushing of left-wing agendas, to the extent that all it takes is one development note making clear they were doing such to write it off as liberal, never mind whether it's overt in its intentions. That's even why I ended up disassociating myself from BATB and Star Wars, also Metal Gear to a lesser extent. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 16:23, June 25, 2022 (EDT) |
| | + | I do see what you’re trying to say. I don’t hate The Little Mermaid, and I’ll admit it’s a guilty pleasure of mine, but I can’t find much information on what Walt Disney’s plans were. From what I managed to find, Disney and MGM were co-collaborating on a biopic on Hans Christian Andersen, with MGM doing the main stuff, with Disney doing animated shorts based on his stories, one of which was The Little Mermaid. Given that it’s in a biopic about the author, it would’ve ended the same way as the book, but I heard it was going to be darker with the mermaid dying, and NOT becoming a sister of the air. Also, maybe it’s different views, as you saw it as a child, and I avoided it until this year because I saw it as a girl movie, and something I would hate. So think what you will, but those are my thoughts. [[User:Admiral_Farmer|Admiral_Farmer]] ([[User talk:Admiral_Farmer|talk]]) 12:46, June 28, 2022 (EDT) |