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You are either completely missing her point or steadfastly ignoring it.  FBI statistics report based on bias.  Thus, anti-homosexual crimes are those that are commited with an anti-homosexual bias, thus by their nature are commited by someone who is not homosexual.  A gay on gay attack does not have a bias of this type and is thus not included.  You are trying to argue that the FBI counts every crime against a gay individual as an anti-homosexual crime... if this were true, then your point on need statistics on the perpetrators would be valid, but this is not how the statistics are reported, thus your point (not the statistics) is flawed.  Your stubborn denial of this is nothing more than an attempt to push your point of view into statistics which are neutral.  [[User:QNA|QNA]] 11:48, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
 
You are either completely missing her point or steadfastly ignoring it.  FBI statistics report based on bias.  Thus, anti-homosexual crimes are those that are commited with an anti-homosexual bias, thus by their nature are commited by someone who is not homosexual.  A gay on gay attack does not have a bias of this type and is thus not included.  You are trying to argue that the FBI counts every crime against a gay individual as an anti-homosexual crime... if this were true, then your point on need statistics on the perpetrators would be valid, but this is not how the statistics are reported, thus your point (not the statistics) is flawed.  Your stubborn denial of this is nothing more than an attempt to push your point of view into statistics which are neutral.  [[User:QNA|QNA]] 11:48, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
 
*''anti-homosexual crimes are those that are commited with an anti-homosexual bias, thus by their nature are commited by someone who is not homosexual.''
 
*''anti-homosexual crimes are those that are commited with an anti-homosexual bias, thus by their nature are commited by someone who is not homosexual.''
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:Wrong. Flawed.  A gay lover who beats up another gay lover because of some interpersonal dispute over their gay lifestyle, is reported as a hate crime against homosexuals, and is not accounted for in FBI statistics, mandated by law.  And your premise underlies precisely ''why'' we cannot accept and further explanation regarding the FBI's flawed methodolgy, becuase it us used to perpetrated a flawed popular misconception, that heterosexuals are solely responsible for anti-gay violence, which we have now '''clearly''' demonstrated, FBI statistics do not measure or account for.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:58, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
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:Wrong. Flawed.  A gay lover who beats up another gay lover because of some interpersonal dispute over their gay lifestyle, is reported as a hate crime against homosexuals, and is not accounted for in FBI statistics, mandated by law.  And your premise underlies precisely ''why'' we cannot accept any further explanation regarding the FBI's flawed methodolgy, becuase it us used to perpetrated a flawed popular misconception, that heterosexuals are solely responsible for anti-gay violence, which we have now '''clearly''' demonstrated, FBI statistics do not measure or account for.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:58, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
    
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